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Golf GTI Misfire / Judder
« on: August 06, 2012, 01:40:00 pm »
Hi All, first time posting so apologies if this has been covered at any point just getting used to the forum  :smiley:
i bought the Golf back in May my first Golf GTI, grey 5 door with leather and 17" wheels and have loved every minute of it.  :driver:
on saturday while doing a short 5 mile journey not driving the car hard at all (town driving) it had a little miss almost felt like it was about to run out of fuel and juddered a couple of times then stopped and then a couple of minutes later did exactly the same. On the same afternoon I then drove 250 ish miles to wales for a night away and ran brilliantly good fuel consumption was pulling well in every gear and went without a hitch. yesterday did the return journey and exactly the same the car ran great. on both Journeys the car sat for a few minutes either end to cool down before turning off.
This morning on the way to work which is a 7 mile journey mostly A roads 60 ish mph it started juddering/missing again most of the 7 mile trip. It has 65000 miles on the clock with full history and the cam belt and service was done when i purchased it at about 62000 miles, I have checked this morning and any recalls have been carried out.
Has any one come across a similar problem and whats the best way to start? plugs, coilpacks etc...

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Re: Golf GTI Misfire / Judder
« Reply #1 on: August 06, 2012, 02:55:50 pm »
What year is your car as if it's a coil pack problem, it may be replaced FOC by VW if your car is on the recall list.

Suggest you phone up your VW dealer service department and ask if your car is on the recall list.

That being said IMO your issue is either plugs or coil packs.
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Re: Golf GTI Misfire / Judder
« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2012, 03:05:04 pm »
Thanks for the reply its 2005/55 I called the stealers this morning and they have advised me that there are no outstanding recalls, think I may have a look at the plugs tonight. is there any way of checking coilpacks without any form of diagnostics?

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Re: Golf GTI Misfire / Judder
« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2012, 05:27:33 pm »
You really need something like vcds for misfires especially if it's only one coil pack acting up.
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Re: Golf GTI Misfire / Judder
« Reply #4 on: August 07, 2012, 07:29:56 am »
Thanks for the reply its 2005/55 I called the stealers this morning and they have advised me that there are no outstanding recalls, think I may have a look at the plugs tonight. is there any way of checking coilpacks without any form of diagnostics?


Mine is a 55 plate and had the coil pack recall - there should be a sticker either in your boot under the carpet and/or in the service booklet at the back showing if this has been done  :happy2:
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Re: Golf GTI Misfire / Judder
« Reply #5 on: August 19, 2012, 06:21:22 pm »
Thanks for the the replies, I managed to get it onto a diagnostics a few days ago and there are no fault codes showing. will get the plugs out and carry out a minor service over the bank holiday weekend and hopefully check the DV valve at the same time.

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Re: Golf GTI Misfire / Judder
« Reply #6 on: August 19, 2012, 07:34:46 pm »
This recently happened to my 08 gti and i replaced the coilpacks and plugs with no difference ,it threw an ecu light on and it turned out to be the primary o2 sensor ,got one from TPS and fitted it reset the ecu and the job was sorted !

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Re: Golf GTI Misfire / Judder
« Reply #7 on: August 20, 2012, 03:23:04 pm »
Thanks for the help once I've done the plugs and coils as I already have them I will look at the O2 sensor, did the sensor show up on a code reader?

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Re: Golf GTI Misfire / Judder
« Reply #8 on: August 20, 2012, 03:37:08 pm »
Thanks for the help once I've done the plugs and coils as I already have them I will look at the O2 sensor, did the sensor show up on a code reader?


Mine did but was sensor 2 post cat

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Re: Golf GTI Misfire / Judder
« Reply #9 on: August 24, 2012, 11:20:39 pm »
Thanks guys, plugged it into the code reader again and still nothing.
yesterday on the way home it started again but this time as i was approaching an island it just died on me! :confused:

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Re: Golf GTI Misfire / Judder
« Reply #10 on: August 27, 2012, 10:38:22 am »
Thanks for the help once I've done the plugs and coils as I already have them I will look at the O2 sensor, did the sensor show up on a code reader?


Yea mine showed up as the 1st o2 sensor ,so unplugged the clip and it ran fine ,put the clip back together and reset the engine light via a snap on diagnostic tool and the light came straight back on after 1 mile of driving plugged it back into the diagnostic tool and it showed the same o2 sensor 1 fault ,replaced the sensor and all is good !

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Re: Golf GTI Misfire / Judder
« Reply #11 on: September 09, 2012, 09:49:37 pm »
Bit of a late update but finally serviced the car today, oil and filter, air filter, plugs and 4 coils and forge dump valve. Will run it for a few days and see if it solves the issue and will right a little update. On a
Separate note gilders seat in Sheffield are a shower of s**t, purchased the car in may and they had apparently service the car as part of the deal and the oil and filter today by no means looked a few monts old and had only cover a couple of thousand miles. Rant over  :smiley:

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Re: Golf GTI Misfire / Judder
« Reply #12 on: October 09, 2012, 09:25:15 am »
It's back!!!
It's been running great and then all of a sudden over the last couple of days it's done the judder thing a couple of times.
At a bit of a loss at the minute. I've done 4 coils, plugs and upgraded to a forge dump valve. Nothing showing up on the diagnostics still?!??!?!!???

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Re: Golf GTI Misfire / Judder
« Reply #13 on: October 09, 2012, 10:50:14 am »
I did have the same problem, it appeared to be labouring a bit when idle, juddered quite badly sometimes. I then had a Powerflex dogbone insert fitted, any judder is 95% gone, feels much more stable. They are quite cheap too, and easy enough to fit (for somebody who knows what he's doing) when up on ramps...

Just a thought!!

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Re: Golf GTI Misfire / Judder
« Reply #14 on: October 09, 2012, 11:25:15 am »
Thanks for the reply may have to try that aswell, wast sure whether it may be an injector problem aswell?
May have to take a trip to the guru's at r-tech and get them to put it on the rollers and get there thoughts on the situation. :)