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Re: Hurdy's Golf .:R
« Reply #765 on: November 03, 2012, 07:59:37 pm »
Stop posting on here John and get out with your Vbox.  :grin:

I can imagine Hurdy pouring away bottles of milk down the kitchen sink so he can persuade his wife he needs to nip to the shop to buy some more, just so he can go out and try a few more VBOX shootouts  :driver:



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I can picture that as well - I may be doing the same when I get my VI monitor on Monday!!!
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Re: Hurdy's Golf .:R
« Reply #766 on: November 05, 2012, 03:47:28 pm »
GIAC released their stage 2 map yesterday. Their stage 2 map is the equivalent of Revo stage 2+. It was developed on GIACs own in-house Golf R, with just the normal bolt ons of....

Milltek full TBE
Autotech hpfp internals
Modified Forge Twintake


I was lucky enough to try this map over the weekend and I must say I am very impressed with it. It revs out to the redline swiftly and smoothly and without any hint of hesitation. The pull is strong and is easily faster than my Torque limited Revo set-up. 100mph comes up in under 10 seconds and I reckon low 12's at the Pod are easily achievable on this set-up.
I went out with Steve Jr from Statllers as GIAC asked for some maf logs on the hammer map that was on before stage 2 and then some logs on stage 2.

The Hammer map made 265g/s and on the dyno made 347bhp and just under 350lbft

The Stage 2 map made 296g/s and on the dyno made 379bhp@6480rpm and 360lbft. The 360lbft of torque held for almost 2000rpm rather than just being a peak figure, and then dropped off to 320lbft@6000rpm.

The car is also running the GIAC stage 3 DSG software and runs supremely well with the stage 2 engine map.

Overall I'm glad I made the move to GIAC and will stick with them from now on.

Any questions, ask away
« Last Edit: November 05, 2012, 04:52:05 pm by Hurdy »
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Re: Hurdy's Golf .:R
« Reply #767 on: November 05, 2012, 06:40:39 pm »
Great numbers, John  :happy2:

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Re: Hurdy's Golf .:R
« Reply #768 on: November 05, 2012, 07:18:34 pm »
Great results there John.  What were the wheel figures?
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Re: Hurdy's Golf .:R
« Reply #769 on: November 05, 2012, 07:56:51 pm »
Great results Hurdy, watching this closely  :happy2:

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Re: Hurdy's Golf .:R
« Reply #770 on: November 05, 2012, 08:20:44 pm »
Hi john ,it was great to meet you today and your car is something else,statllers work is amazing (BIG thanks to steve jnr,craig and luke) cant thank them enough  :happy2:
Ohh i found something you will like:
http://www.vagoc.co.uk/vb/showthread.php?t=12112
« Last Edit: November 05, 2012, 08:23:57 pm by s3kel »

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Re: Hurdy's Golf .:R
« Reply #771 on: November 05, 2012, 11:06:57 pm »
Great results there John.  What were the wheel figures?

It was done with the haldex pulled in FWD mode and was over 300whp, but didn't see the final figure.
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Re: Hurdy's Golf .:R
« Reply #772 on: November 06, 2012, 02:53:30 pm »


Wow thats some improvement!  :congrats:

How does this compare to APR's Golf R?
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Re: Hurdy's Golf .:R
« Reply #773 on: November 06, 2012, 05:40:58 pm »


Wow thats some improvement!  :congrats:

How does this compare to APR's Golf R?

It will be pretty similar I reckon to their stage 2+ set-up. However if my car had the same suspension mods as the APR Golf I reckon I could nudge a 12-12.1 out of it. Unfortunately by the time the official drag strip season gets going again next year I will at least have water methanol and most likely the Loba turbo too. If I wait a while I could get a run or 10 in early next year and run it without the wmi on and then with it on for comparison and to get a pure GIACs stage 2+ run. Their cars abroad have already been hitting 12.1's and on methanol getting into the 11's :party: :driver:
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Re: Hurdy's Golf .:R
« Reply #774 on: November 07, 2012, 01:11:21 am »


Wow thats some improvement!  :congrats:

How does this compare to APR's Golf R?

It will be pretty similar I reckon to their stage 2+ set-up. However if my car had the same suspension mods as the APR Golf I reckon I could nudge a 12-12.1 out of it. Unfortunately by the time the official drag strip season gets going again next year I will at least have water methanol and most likely the Loba turbo too. If I wait a while I could get a run or 10 in early next year and run it without the wmi on and then with it on for comparison and to get a pure GIACs stage 2+ run. Their cars abroad have already been hitting 12.1's and on methanol getting into the 11's :party: :driver:

You coming to the German car Vmaxx day in march? VAG vs Porsche vs MB vs BMW

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Re: Hurdy's Golf .:R
« Reply #775 on: November 07, 2012, 04:57:22 am »


Wow thats some improvement!  :congrats:

How does this compare to APR's Golf R?

It will be pretty similar I reckon to their stage 2+ set-up. However if my car had the same suspension mods as the APR Golf I reckon I could nudge a 12-12.1 out of it. Unfortunately by the time the official drag strip season gets going again next year I will at least have water methanol and most likely the Loba turbo too. If I wait a while I could get a run or 10 in early next year and run it without the wmi on and then with it on for comparison and to get a pure GIACs stage 2+ run. Their cars abroad have already been hitting 12.1's and on methanol getting into the 11's :party: :driver:

You coming to the German car Vmaxx day in march? VAG vs Porsche vs MB vs BMW
Depends on the date. If I can I will. :happy2:
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Re: Hurdy's Golf .:R
« Reply #776 on: November 07, 2012, 10:17:59 pm »


Wow thats some improvement!  :congrats:

How does this compare to APR's Golf R?

It will be pretty similar I reckon to their stage 2+ set-up. However if my car had the same suspension mods as the APR Golf I reckon I could nudge a 12-12.1 out of it. Unfortunately by the time the official drag strip season gets going again next year I will at least have water methanol and most likely the Loba turbo too. If I wait a while I could get a run or 10 in early next year and run it without the wmi on and then with it on for comparison and to get a pure GIACs stage 2+ run. Their cars abroad have already been hitting 12.1's and on methanol getting into the 11's :party: :driver:

You coming to the German car Vmaxx day in march? VAG vs Porsche vs MB vs BMW
Depends on the date. If I can I will. :happy2:

If you will go and if my car is ready i will also come

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Re: Hurdy's Golf .:R
« Reply #777 on: November 07, 2012, 10:28:48 pm »
GIAC released their stage 2 map yesterday. Their stage 2 map is the equivalent of Revo stage 2+. It was developed on GIACs own in-house Golf R, with just the normal bolt ons of....

Milltek full TBE
Autotech hpfp internals
Modified Forge Twintake


I was lucky enough to try this map over the weekend and I must say I am very impressed with it. It revs out to the redline swiftly and smoothly and without any hint of hesitation. The pull is strong and is easily faster than my Torque limited Revo set-up. 100mph comes up in under 10 seconds and I reckon low 12's at the Pod are easily achievable on this set-up.
I went out with Steve Jr from Statllers as GIAC asked for some maf logs on the hammer map that was on before stage 2 and then some logs on stage 2.

The Hammer map made 265g/s and on the dyno made 347bhp and just under 350lbft

The Stage 2 map made 296g/s and on the dyno made 379bhp@6480rpm and 360lbft. The 360lbft of torque held for almost 2000rpm rather than just being a peak figure, and then dropped off to 320lbft@6000rpm.

The car is also running the GIAC stage 3 DSG software and runs supremely well with the stage 2 engine map.

Overall I'm glad I made the move to GIAC and will stick with them from now on.

Any questions, ask away

John, I was getting 265g/s and I made 322bhp on JKM dyno.

Is Stattlers dyno a 'Heart Breaker' as per JKM?

I was under the impression it was pretty accurate so it maybe the differences between an ED30 engine and a 'R' but I thought they were pretty similar.

I have the DSG Stage 2 software as well.

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Re: Hurdy's Golf .:R
« Reply #778 on: November 08, 2012, 12:42:29 am »
GIAC released their stage 2 map yesterday. Their stage 2 map is the equivalent of Revo stage 2+. It was developed on GIACs own in-house Golf R, with just the normal bolt ons of....

Milltek full TBE
Autotech hpfp internals
Modified Forge Twintake


I was lucky enough to try this map over the weekend and I must say I am very impressed with it. It revs out to the redline swiftly and smoothly and without any hint of hesitation. The pull is strong and is easily faster than my Torque limited Revo set-up. 100mph comes up in under 10 seconds and I reckon low 12's at the Pod are easily achievable on this set-up.
I went out with Steve Jr from Statllers as GIAC asked for some maf logs on the hammer map that was on before stage 2 and then some logs on stage 2.

The Hammer map made 265g/s and on the dyno made 347bhp and just under 350lbft

The Stage 2 map made 296g/s and on the dyno made 379bhp@6480rpm and 360lbft. The 360lbft of torque held for almost 2000rpm rather than just being a peak figure, and then dropped off to 320lbft@6000rpm.

The car is also running the GIAC stage 3 DSG software and runs supremely well with the stage 2 engine map.

Overall I'm glad I made the move to GIAC and will stick with them from now on.

Any questions, ask away

John, I was getting 265g/s and I made 322bhp on JKM dyno.

Is Stattlers dyno a 'Heart Breaker' as per JKM?

I was under the impression it was pretty accurate so it maybe the differences between an ED30 engine and a 'R' but I thought they were pretty similar.

I have the DSG Stage 2 software as well.

Looking at that 322bhp on JKM's dyno = 347bhp on Statllers dyno

I was getting 265g/s on the first GIAC map and made 347bhp.

If the mass air flow directly relates to bhp (which it does) then ....

322/265= 1.215

My current GIAC map makes a consistent 296g/s, so on JKM's dyno the Golf R should  theoretically make.......

1.215 x 296 = 359.6bhp

There are a few variables, like how lean each car is running, but overall it shouldn't be too far off.  :smiley:

« Last Edit: November 08, 2012, 12:44:33 am by Hurdy »
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Re: Hurdy's Golf .:R
« Reply #779 on: November 08, 2012, 12:48:38 am »
I was running 9-6-9 with no timing pull so could have tweaked it a little more.

The new Revo maps are less aggressive and seem to allow the timing to go higher(?).

I have turned it down now for driveability but still very quick.

GIAC seems to be making headwind. There seems to be a few people thinking the KO4 has a bit more to offer.