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Re: Hurdy's Golf .:R
« Reply #1200 on: February 06, 2013, 11:51:07 pm »
Uprating the lpfp made a good difference to the vRS.  Could add more boost at 1.9 bar peak and 1.5 bar at 7k and more timing.   Going to add a 145bar fprv soon too.

The meth will go well with the larger tb and gtx3071.

Did you hear that revo have dropped the lo4xx?

Have Revo dropped it or have GIAC bagged the rights for it now? I know GIAC are plugging it quite heavily in the USA now as well as the L0380. I've seen the Uprated fprv's and the 145bar one is already on my radar. I think the 155 bar one maybe overkill even for BT applications LOL.

1.9 bar is good, but 1.7bar seems to make for a smoother curve on mine at the moment. Maybe that is due to the fprv or the limit of the lpfp, however pushing it higher on the R seems to promote more surge, making it edgy and the lower setting gives a smoother run at lower throttle around town. Either way the boost at the redline seems to be similar.
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Re: Hurdy's Golf .:R
« Reply #1201 on: February 06, 2013, 11:53:48 pm »
Come on lets stop spamming Hurdy's thread now.
 We are getting close to the point were he bends a rod or one of his clutches starts slipping. 

The difference is that this time I would/will build the engine stronger, rather than bail out. :happy2:
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Re: Hurdy's Golf .:R
« Reply #1202 on: February 07, 2013, 12:00:37 am »
Come on lets stop spamming Hurdy's thread now.
 We are getting close to the point were he bends a rod or one of his clutches starts slipping. 

The difference is that this time I would/will build the engine stronger, rather than bail out. :happy2:

I know John! i was just trying to be humorous.  :happy2:  I wouldn't doubt your knowledge when it came to tuning these engines.  :wink:

Your still mad as a hatter though.  :driver:

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Re: Hurdy's Golf .:R
« Reply #1203 on: February 07, 2013, 12:11:42 am »
Come on lets stop spamming Hurdy's thread now.
 We are getting close to the point were he bends a rod or one of his clutches starts slipping. 

The difference is that this time I would/will build the engine stronger, rather than bail out. :happy2:

I know John! i was just trying to be humorous.  :happy2:  I wouldn't doubt your knowledge when it came to tuning these engines.  :wink:

Your still mad as a hatter though.  :driver:

It was funny TC, I just hit the wrong smiley.  :laugh:
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« Reply #1204 on: February 07, 2013, 11:15:20 am »
I dont see the point in having a dyno calibrated to read lower.... its like having a ruler thats scale is wrong, utterly useless.  :confused:

It works bloody well for JKM.  :laugh:

Don't you mean reading 'correctly'?

Otherwise its just bullsh*t pub talk.

JKM and Statller read correctly not low surely?

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Re: Hurdy's Golf .:R
« Reply #1205 on: February 07, 2013, 11:51:08 am »
Uprating the lpfp made a good difference to the vRS.  Could add more boost at 1.9 bar peak and 1.5 bar at 7k and more timing.   Going to add a 145bar fprv soon too.

The meth will go well with the larger tb and gtx3071.

Did you hear that revo have dropped the lo4xx?

Have Revo dropped it or have GIAC bagged the rights for it now? I know GIAC are plugging it quite heavily in the USA now as well as the L0380. I've seen the Uprated fprv's and the 145bar one is already on my radar. I think the 155 bar one maybe overkill even for BT applications LOL.

1.9 bar is good, but 1.7bar seems to make for a smoother curve on mine at the moment. Maybe that is due to the fprv or the limit of the lpfp, however pushing it higher on the R seems to promote more surge, making it edgy and the lower setting gives a smoother run at lower throttle around town. Either way the boost at the redline seems to be similar.

What makes me laugh about Revo is they are a Performance Car Remapping company who are averse to progress.

It seems they don't want to move along with the times and write Maps for new products. This has got to me a little bit as I was going to invest in a LO380 but I will need to keep my 2+ and get a manual boost controller.

That seems like a bodge to me and may, may as I am unsure,  force my hand to a GIAC Map. I am just trying to find out if I can keep my Revo DSG Software if I do make that change.

Loba, very very friendly informative emails from Simon, have told me they think GIAC are bringing out some specific maps for the LO380 so I suppose the LO4XX too?

Even though I did get lots of information from Kev at Revo, the tone was a bit, how should I say 'I don't really want to discuss Loba'!

Personally I think they are missing a trick, EGT's keep getting mentioned but the info from Simon says otherwise.

So maybe £1500ish of Revo Software on my car down the swanny? I don't think so! But it means everybody with Revo is losing out because they want to keep it simple.

I don't want a non OEM looking solution on my car like the GT6071R, or whatever it is, I want a nice OEM fit non intrusive product, alla LO380!

Good results from the WMI though John very impressed.
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Re: Hurdy's Golf .:R
« Reply #1206 on: February 07, 2013, 11:54:13 am »
I think its a conflict of interests.... REVO are in bed with STaSIS hardware so why would they develop software for a rival hardware company?

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« Reply #1207 on: February 07, 2013, 11:59:21 am »
I think its a conflict of interests.... REVO are in bed with STaSIS hardware so why would they develop software for a rival hardware company?

Your right I suppose so maybe they should have said that in their comms with me?

'Have you looked at the STaSIS blah blah blah'?

Not a word.

I doubt I will do anything now as I was prepared to spend money on say a Stage 3 map but not ditching the whole lot.

Time for a change maybe.................. :popcornsoda:

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Re: Hurdy's Golf .:R
« Reply #1208 on: February 07, 2013, 12:08:53 pm »
Can't find anything on the STaSIS website thats probably why.

Anyway sorry John for clogging up your thread.

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Re: Hurdy's Golf .:R
« Reply #1209 on: February 07, 2013, 12:16:05 pm »
I feel for you Hardy, I really do. I had Revo engine software and Custard Code DSG software and had to bin both to get to where I am now.

I've asked GIAC today about the specs of the L0380 as there are a few people who have asked me questions about the set up.

STaSIS so far haven't made big inroads into the 2.0TFSi platform as they have been concentrating on stuff like the 3.0 supercharged engine and the 2.5tfsi. I doubt they will change tack any time soon either as they are mainly US based and focused as that is where the money is.

GIAC on the other hand have their own in-house Golf R for tuning and are sold on the L0380 and L04XX turbos.

I think GIAC would be better off supplying a kit for both these turbos, rather than individuals having to source their own supporting hardware, but I guess that allows us to have different tweaks to our set-ups. :smiley:



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« Reply #1210 on: February 07, 2013, 12:23:42 pm »
Oh, and Revo, whilst being one of the better tuning companies, seem to be hobbled a bit by their own success. They now have owners that look at the pounds and pence as well as just the tuning aspect. I believe this has made them less flexible and slowed down their "product to market" times. The guys in 1.4tsi's with the seven speed DSG are still awaiting a tune for them from Revo and this is over a year after they said to me it would be coming.......and still nothing as far as I can see. :stupid:

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« Reply #1211 on: February 07, 2013, 12:24:59 pm »
I feel for you Hardy, I really do. I had Revo engine software and Custard Code DSG software and had to bin both to get to where I am now.

I've asked GIAC today about the specs of the L0380 as there are a few people who have asked me questions about the set up.

STaSIS so far haven't made big inroads into the 2.0TFSi platform as they have been concentrating on stuff like the 3.0 supercharged engine and the 2.5tfsi. I doubt they will change tack any time soon either as they are mainly US based and focused as that is where the money is.

GIAC on the other hand have their own in-house Golf R for tuning and are sold on the L0380 and L04XX turbos.

I think GIAC would be better off supplying a kit for both these turbos, rather than individuals having to source their own supporting hardware, but I guess that allows us to have different tweaks to our set-ups. :smiley:





I have just emailed GIAC to find out a little more.

I like the power increase of WMI but I am not sure I want the intrusion of bottles and pumps.

The LO380 seems like a great product for me if it achieves the 380-400ps Loba are saying.

Simon said that they have run the Turbo flat out on the Autobahn with no EGT issues?

To quote:

'We have sold hundreds of LO380 never a issue ever yet...  also to be noted in Germany no speed limits so car sit a WOT in high gears for long time..this is when egt would be a problem!'

I hope he is alright with me putting that up?

Lets see what GIAC say.......... :popcornsoda:

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Re: Hurdy's Golf .:R
« Reply #1212 on: February 07, 2013, 12:27:01 pm »
Oh, and Revo, whilst being one of the better tuning companies, seem to be hobbled a bit by their own success. They now have owners that look at the pounds and pence as well as just the tuning aspect. I believe this has made them less flexible and slowed down their "product to market" times. The guys in 1.4tsi's with the seven speed DSG are still awaiting a tune for them from Revo and this is over a year after they said to me it would be coming.......and still nothing as far as I can see. :stupid:



Yes I think your right, the money is coming in so why bother making anything else.

Unfortunately that won't last forever IMHO.

I think I will email R-Tech as well and see what they say.

Logistics are an issue for me though, living in the Sarth.................

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Re: Hurdy's Golf .:R
« Reply #1213 on: February 07, 2013, 12:41:54 pm »
I have emailed Nick at R-Tech.

Ill let you know what he says.

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Re: Hurdy's Golf .:R
« Reply #1214 on: February 07, 2013, 12:50:10 pm »
I have emailed Nick at R-Tech.

Ill let you know what he says.

James lives in Kent but made the trip to R-Tech for tuning. Once you've got it right, you shouldnt need to go back  :happy2:

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