Hurdy's Golf .:R.

[vRSAlex]

Simon must have a magic EGT gauge then as the TFSi doesnt have one on the car.

Revo have been testing the LO4XX on a golf R for a few months.  They allocate weeks on each tune so if they are not happy selling something then they wont.  Why progress with something thats not working for them?

Hybrids are a waste of time on the TFSi.  I know, I run one.  No point going from a K04 to a K04 hybrid unless the stock K04 has died.

The AFi mani and GTX30**R turbos look stock from the top.

[jimojameso]

I'm down here in Surrey with Revo software. I really wanted GIAC engine and dsg software but Regal the southern dealer for them have been useless when i have contacted them on the three occasions. Wish Statlers was a bit closer. We need a decent GIAC agent down here!!

I have been chatting to Kev and apparently there is a dsg map is coming this year but they can't give me a date. Agree Revo need to start doing more R&D if they don't want to fall behind.

Jim 

[Hedge]

Simon must have a magic EGT gauge then as the TFSi doesnt have one on the car.

My thoughts exactly. Saying it must be alright because we've had no failures is a bit short-sighted and blinkered. 

[h4rdy]

Simon must have a magic EGT gauge then as the TFSi doesnt have one on the car.

Revo have been testing the LO4XX on a golf R for a few months.  They allocate weeks on each tune so if they are not happy selling something then they wont.  Why progress with something thats not working for them?

Hybrids are a waste of time on the TFSi.  I know, I run one.  No point going from a K04 to a K04 hybrid unless the stock K04 has died.

The AFi mani and GTX30**R turbos look stock from the top.

But your at least 30bhp up on me now maybe more after the actuator tweak?

The point I am trying to make about EGT's is if it is a problem, and its only Revo saying it(?), then I won't be flat out on the Autobahn will I?

If I wanted that I would be going down the GTX*** route.

Also if Loba say 380-400ps, and they are selling these things in USA so they have to be careful, surely its got to be close?

I'm not stupid I know claims against truth, Revo 2+ 360bhp my arse, but its a big claim to make and sell something physical that can't do it?

I'm done now with this, sorry again John for clogging the thread, I'll update mine when I get some info from GIAC and R-Tech.

[kiddfrost]

They seem like excellent results from the water meth. GIAC must have a proper wmi optimised map. 
I’ve been running the DO wm kit for a while now and tried nozzles from 200ml/min upto 625ml/min and the most I got was an extra 14bhp on JKM’s dyno. I’m running Revo 2+ and this is all I could get by running timing at 8. Certainly not optimised like your GIAC code.
I’m just waiting to hear back from Nick at R-Tech on if he will take my car on for a custom map.

I’ve set my wm to kick in at about 650-700mb and peak at about 1200mb. How is yours set up?

[Poverty]

I think its a conflict of interests.... REVO are in bed with STaSIS hardware so why would they develop software for a rival hardware company?

stasis dont make hardware, the rebrand others stuff. They could rebrand loba turbos like they do everything else

[Poverty]

They seem like excellent results from the water meth. GIAC must have a proper wmi optimised map. 
I’ve been running the DO wm kit for a while now and tried nozzles from 200ml/min upto 625ml/min and the most I got was an extra 14bhp on JKM’s dyno. I’m running Revo 2+ and this is all I could get by running timing at 8. Certainly not optimised like your GIAC code.
I’m just waiting to hear back from Nick at R-Tech on if he will take my car on for a custom map.

I’ve set my wm to kick in at about 650-700mb and peak at about 1200mb. How is yours set up?

If you run the right mix your octane rating will be boosted considerably, similiar to using race fuel, timing can be advanced big time. However should the WMI fail or run out, the engine will melt itself.

[Hurdy]

They seem like excellent results from the water meth. GIAC must have a proper wmi optimised map. 
I’ve been running the DO wm kit for a while now and tried nozzles from 200ml/min upto 625ml/min and the most I got was an extra 14bhp on JKM’s dyno. I’m running Revo 2+ and this is all I could get by running timing at 8. Certainly not optimised like your GIAC code.
I’ve set my wm to kick in at about 650-700mb and peak at about 1200mb. How is yours set up?

Mine is set to come in at 1.1 bar IIRC. Steve Jr has done a lot of tweakage since though.

The Polo GTI I had made around 14bhp more on wmi than without it at JKM's dyno, but that was only a 1.4 and should only give 2/3rds the improvement of a 2.0ltr car. The Polo was a Revo car as well, so there should be more in it than what you are getting.

[Hurdy]

If you run the right mix your octane rating will be boosted considerably, similiar to using race fuel, timing can be advanced big time. However should the WMI fail or run out, the engine will melt itself.

^^^^^This!^^^^^

GIAC's race map is for wmi or/and race fuel. Running it without either, but on 99 Ron pump fuel is borderline. The timing will pull considerably and you won't get benefits from running in race mode on 99 ron only, but you won't melt your engine unless you are completely stupid and try doing WOT runs at max speeds for daft lengths of time. Eg, a 1/4 mile run or even a 30-130 would be okay, but I wouldn't like to go on a German Autobahn for 50 miles at WOT!
You'd get better results from the Extreme Pump map with 99ron than in race mode and still get a decent power and torque increase in pump mode too when using WMI.

[gazon69]

If you run the right mix your octane rating will be boosted considerably, similiar to using race fuel, timing can be advanced big time. However should the WMI fail or run out, the engine will melt itself.

^^^^^This!^^^^^

GIAC's race map is for wmi or/and race fuel. Running it without either, but on 99 Ron pump fuel is borderline. The timing will pull considerably and you won't get benefits from running in race mode on 99 ron only, but you won't melt your engine unless you are completely stupid and try doing WOT runs at max speeds for daft lengths of time. Eg, a 1/4 mile run or even a 30-130 would be okay, but I wouldn't like to go on a German Autobahn for 50 miles at WOT!
You'd get better results from the Extreme Pump map with 99ron than in race mode and still get a decent power and torque increase in pump mode too when using WMI.

^^^^ and i will be able to tell you what thats like once mine is up and running again

[Hurdy]

If you run the right mix your octane rating will be boosted considerably, similiar to using race fuel, timing can be advanced big time. However should the WMI fail or run out, the engine will melt itself.

^^^^^This!^^^^^

GIAC's race map is for wmi or/and race fuel. Running it without either, but on 99 Ron pump fuel is borderline. The timing will pull considerably and you won't get benefits from running in race mode on 99 ron only, but you won't melt your engine unless you are completely stupid and try doing WOT runs at max speeds for daft lengths of time. Eg, a 1/4 mile run or even a 30-130 would be okay, but I wouldn't like to go on a German Autobahn for 50 miles at WOT!
You'd get better results from the Extreme Pump map with 99ron than in race mode and still get a decent power and torque increase in pump mode too when using WMI.

^^^^ and i will be able to tell you what thats like once mine is up and running again

Yours,will be as mad as a box of frogs Gaz.

[Statller-Stevo]

I don't think hybrids are a waste of time for a fast road car it just depends how well they've been set up.
Revo had lots of things to consider with the Loba, they had to make something fool proof that they could offer throughout the world including very hot climate markets, for a car with limited hardware, they never really sank their hearts into it as for them it was too expensive and they assumed customers wouldn't want to pay for the correct development.
Makes sense really they have to put their efforts into things that make them money !

Personally I think a well set up stock K04 car is hard to beat with the right mods and makes one hell of a fast road car

Regards Johns car we'll go as far as we can on the stock K04 I spent a lot of time on the dyno setting the car up, it wasn't just a power thing either we wanted a smooth delivery and that's exactly what we got and more boost didn't make more power by the way! Some more to do yet on the stock turbo then move on.

With regards to Hybrids VS BT setups soon I'll be able to overlay different graphs on the dyno when our Marham motor is finished that would be with GTX30 & 35's included

So what does Sir require ? a 400+ hp fast road car keeping excellent road manners and near stock drivability or a rip snorting 9000rpm limited monster that's gutless below 4000rpms but when it comes you better hold on?
I know which I'd choose for the road and I own cars with both set ups

Well be having an open day mid summer so you can choose and see for yourself 

[kiddfrost]

If I set mine to 1.1 bar I get timing pull initially of 6 and 9's. As the revs go up it does start to come down again. I keep an eye on the timing as i keep my fis advanced is showing it all the time.
I just don't think Revo sps adjustments can take full advantage wmi as i believe there is more to it then just timing. I'm currently running 989 with 0 to 3 timing pull.  The Giac code does look good though judging by your results.

I did run out once, the car just throttled back and I' m sure I saw timing pull in the 14's.

[bacillus]

I did run out once, the car just throttled back and I' m sure I saw timing pull in the 14's.

Maximum ecu CF is -12 with our cars.   

[dan930]

I'm down here in Surrey with Revo software. I really wanted GIAC engine and dsg software but Regal the southern dealer for them have been useless when i have contacted them on the three occasions. Wish Statlers was a bit closer. We need a decent GIAC agent down here!!

I have been chatting to Kev and apparently there is a dsg map is coming this year but they can't give me a date. Agree Revo need to start doing more R&D if they don't want to fall behind.

Jim 

I know what you mean mate..I also called them a few times regarding GIAC maps for the golfR but they said they will get bk to me but never did..made my mind up that I be going up to stattlers even if its a long drive (170ish miles)