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Re: Hurdy's 500+bhp Golf .:R
« Reply #2580 on: May 25, 2014, 11:13:31 pm »
Well what about all the guys who use RS (TTRS RS3 etc) calipers on GTIs... should they remove the RS as its not an RS. If Hurdy wants the kudos of Lamborghini decals on his RS4 calipers then so be it.  :happy2:

I'm rocking S3 badged calipers on my ED30, it's all part of the look Sy  :P

Hurdy - when is the engine build?? Or have I missed it?  :laugh:

The engine build will be this Autumn. Want to try and get tens on a stock engine first.  :wink:
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Re: Hurdy's 500+bhp Golf .:R
« Reply #2581 on: May 25, 2014, 11:15:08 pm »
Injector flow?

Stock = 1080 cc/min
RS4 = 1091 cc/min
S3 = 1217 cc/min

Still not enough for my future requirements Rich.  :innocent:
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Re: Hurdy's 500+bhp Golf .:R
« Reply #2582 on: May 25, 2014, 11:17:29 pm »
MYbe not it surly at the moment s3 is better for flow than rs4?

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Re: Hurdy's 500+bhp Golf .:R
« Reply #2583 on: May 25, 2014, 11:24:57 pm »
You can't just fit TTRS carriers with 335mm discs.

The adaptors only work with TTRS alloy hubs. They are completely different to the S3 alloy hubs.

Or am I missing something?

Nothing wrong with having a Lamborghini sticker on the calipers. Adds scene points.
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Re: Hurdy's 500+bhp Golf .:R
« Reply #2584 on: May 25, 2014, 11:25:23 pm »
Well what about all the guys who use RS (TTRS RS3 etc) calipers on GTIs... should they remove the RS as its not an RS. If Hurdy wants the kudos of Lamborghini decals on his RS4 calipers then so be it.  :happy2:

I'm rocking S3 badged calipers on my ED30, it's all part of the look Sy  :P

Hurdy - when is the engine build?? Or have I missed it?  :laugh:

The engine build will be this Autumn. Want to try and get tens on a stock engine first.  :wink:

Well done for attempting that  :congrats:. If all goes well, "Hanz" in Wolfsburg can give himself a pat on the back for making the CDLA a 10sec engine

Plenty of internal engine porn pics please  :drool:
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Re: Hurdy's 500+bhp Golf .:R
« Reply #2585 on: May 25, 2014, 11:34:39 pm »
MYbe not it surly at the moment s3 is better for flow than rs4?

GIAC is proving a mighty good power mod and they specify the RS4 injectors at the moment. If they specified S3 I would be using those.
My R is currently VERY quick, some would say too quick ( my wife  :grin: ). I haven't seen another tuner in the UK who has even attempted to go as far as I have gone with a MKVI R. Maybe there are, but I haven't seen any proof that any other UK tuner is quicker, safer or stronger than what Statller and GIAC currently provide. APR have one car in Australia that has proven performance, but I believe this is also down to the man tuning the R as much as the tune on it. Then there is Teff, who's car is also more of a testament to the builder.
I cannot fault Statller as my chosen builder/tuner and I can honestly say that my car wouldn't be as strong as it is now without their dedication and support.
It is the builder that ultimately makes the car perform and you place your trust in what decisions they put forward and so individual parts like injectors, intakes, turbos etc are key to the outcome.  :smiley:
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Re: Hurdy's 500+bhp Golf .:R
« Reply #2586 on: May 25, 2014, 11:42:09 pm »
You can't just fit TTRS carriers with 335mm discs.

The adaptors only work with TTRS alloy hubs. They are completely different to the S3 alloy hubs.

Or am I missing something?

Nothing wrong with having a Lamborghini sticker on the calipers. Adds scene points.

You must be missing something as Steve has already done a test fit and it works on the R.  :smiley:

Are you calipers on yet Alex?

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Re: Hurdy's 500+bhp Golf .:R
« Reply #2587 on: May 25, 2014, 11:56:13 pm »
You can't just fit TTRS carriers with 335mm discs.

The adaptors only work with TTRS alloy hubs. They are completely different to the S3 alloy hubs.

Or am I missing something?

Nothing wrong with having a Lamborghini sticker on the calipers. Adds scene points.

You must be missing something as Steve has already done a test fit and it works on the R.  :smiley:

Are you calipers on yet Alex?



Adaptors from Dave?

Stop giving half the picture.  Bored having to squeeze an answer.

TTRS carriers and TTRS discs only work on TTRS hubs. You can't just bolt on TTRS carriers with 335mm discs. If it's Dave's brackets, then you have to use TTRS hubs with TTRS carriers and either the rs6 or phaeton disc.

Front wheel drive car needs alloy hubs from a TT or scirocco and they work with S3 carriers with Dave's adaptors.

So.... I'm guessing you are using some different adaptors?

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Re: Hurdy's 500+bhp Golf .:R
« Reply #2588 on: May 26, 2014, 12:04:59 am »
I'm not giving half a story Alex.

TT rear carriers, A8 335mm rear discs, stock calipers fitted up to the stock R hubs.  :happy2:
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Re: Hurdy's 500+bhp Golf .:R
« Reply #2589 on: May 26, 2014, 08:06:32 am »
I'm not giving half a story Alex.

TT rear carriers, A8 335mm rear discs, stock calipers fitted up to the stock R hubs.  :happy2:

The one thing you are missing is that to make that all work together is a set of Dave's CC1085 brackets.

I believe the discs also need modifying to fit correctly too.
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Re: Hurdy's 500+bhp Golf .:R
« Reply #2590 on: May 26, 2014, 08:47:09 am »
John

I do/did the kit for Steve there's two versions..

1. Mk6 / Rocco / FWD cars with alloy rear hubs gets a bracket which enables Golf R/R32/s3 rear caliper/carrier assemblies to bolt straight on

2. Alloy Hubbed 4WD cars such as Golf R/S3 get the same disc but a different bracket due to the shape of the casting, there's also some tricky CNC taking place and the use of some very expensive countersunk fine pitch screws as the 4WD cars leave very little room even for a conventional bolt head. The restrictive nature needs me to use TTS/TTRS carriers as the "throw" is different. TTS/TTRS/S3/Golf and Rocco R calipers as we all know are the same


The TT rear 4WD hubs have enough room for a football match behind there and we do a. Kit which enables separate handbrake calipers and 4 pots on the back (I'll put you down for one for the winter!) in fact anybody wanting to see some R8 ceramics on an S3 just needs to look at Alex's FB page

It all came about as the TTRS staged cars have a pronounced "wiggle" when braking from 3 figure speeds, I originally used the C5 RS6 disc as a donor as its actually lighter than the stock disc even with all the bracketry but they're 600 plus VAT. Dynamically the bigger rear creates huge stability....there's no more cost effective upgrade for a track day TT......sure ultimately for a ultimate lap time you need smaller rears and a loose rear end but for those of us that don't wear a HANS device and a fireproof suit on a Sunday morning blat the stability is welcomed really

So the Phaeton disc got used they are more affordable but need a LOT of work to get them to fit, there's 3/4 CNC processes which it needs to get to a fittable product, they won't even go over the hub as supplied by TPS....

We cut one in half and did a lot of maths before we used it.....

The kits only really on request I don't shout about its availability and tend to supply only where's there's bias issues or reluctantly when pressed by the show crowd as the 310mm discs look like 5 pence pieces behind 19s/20s

And please sort the master cylinder matey, Steve will chuck you one on dead easy....if you like the pedal now you'll love it once you've got one fitted, the 8 pots are giving you lots of modulation which is making them feel good but could do with more fluid for high speed stopping...

How much spacer you running on the front now?



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Re: Hurdy's 500+bhp Golf .:R
« Reply #2591 on: May 26, 2014, 09:46:37 am »
Hola Dave

Some confusion here
We just simply use your 335's (Hurdy has the last set btw) with your countersunk carrier brackets and TT caliper carriers
We fitted 3 cars up that way so far, one 8PS3 and two Golf R's no need for any other type hubs on the rear of these cars

John has 2mm shims on the front as he strictly requested no spacers  (caliper carrier again modified on the front to centralise the 8 pot and miss his 8/18 TD wheel

Oh and Dave regarding the Ceramics (which I've been drooling over) when are you sending 'The bells' back to Duncan I'm seriously thinking of using those on my RS but I'm not happy about switching to 19's

Thanks for the quick response last week btw

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Re: Hurdy's 500+bhp Golf .:R
« Reply #2592 on: May 26, 2014, 11:50:47 am »
Now then shhhhteeeeevey....

Don't think I dropped of any of the FWD kits to you matey, they're double handy for Rocco R's which have the alloy hubs AND the 310mm kit as standard....the Mk6 GTI only gets tiny rears but is upgradeable

Duncan's bells are done.....need to laser em up OEM when I ever get two days back to back in the UK....

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Re: Hurdy's 500+bhp Golf .:R
« Reply #2593 on: May 26, 2014, 11:16:00 pm »
Thanks for clearing that up guys. I think I was frustrating Alex a little there without meaning to.  :smiley:
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Re: Hurdy's 500+bhp Golf .:R
« Reply #2594 on: May 27, 2014, 03:47:22 am »
Thanks for clearing that up guys. I think I was frustrating Alex a little there without meaning to.  :smiley:

Be honest, you wanted to a little  :grin: