Finally Pilot Super Sport 225/40-18

[danishmkvgti]

http://www.ts-reifenhandel.de/index.php?id=2

 

[stealthwolf]

MICHELIN SUP-SP 225/40 ZR18 88 Y * PILOT SUPER SPORT:

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    Dass sich der Michelin Pilot Super Sport auf Rang vier einreihen muss, liegt an der mäßigen Leistung auf Nässe. Das Fahrverhalten ist geprägt von hektischen Lastwechselreaktionen, die Aquaplaningleistung ist nicht zufriedenstellend. Bei Trockenheit trumpft der Michelin aber mit einem höchst präzisen Einlenkverhalten auf. Im Grenzbereich gibt sich der Golf GTI sehr neutral. Bei der Rundenzeit im Trockenen setzt der Franzose die Benchmark. Auch die Dauerbelastung steckt der Pilot Super Sport locker weg.

But they're only 88Y not 92Y like PS2s.

[berg]

you cant be serious, have been waiting for this dont tell me they aint doing 92 load 

[sub39h]

88 = 560kg

560kg x 4 is more than the weight of the Golf, even if you have 4 fat friends on board and some luggage

[DFish]

They may be able to hold the weight, but most insurance companies wont touch you with them fitted as they are not what the manufacture requires (i.e. 92 load)

Fish

[robern2]

The 225/40/18 92 Y XL according to michelin is not going into Production.

[RobH]

88 = 560kg

560kg x 4 is more than the weight of the Golf, even if you have 4 fat friends on board and some luggage

Maybe but what about under braking when most the weight is thrown to the front end or in cornering with them sidewalls???

Insurance means there a no go im afraid

[sub39h]

88 = 560kg

560kg x 4 is more than the weight of the Golf, even if you have 4 fat friends on board and some luggage

Maybe but what about under braking when most the weight is thrown to the front end or in cornering with them sidewalls???

Insurance means there a no go im afraid

point taken about insurance, but i'd imagine if you've got a full load you won't be chucking your car around, and if you are chucking your car around your car is gonna be relatively empty

[berg]

88 = 560kg

560kg x 4 is more than the weight of the Golf, even if you have 4 fat friends on board and some luggage

Maybe but what about under braking when most the weight is thrown to the front end or in cornering with them sidewalls???

Insurance means there a no go im afraid

point taken about insurance, but i'd imagine if you've got a full load you won't be chucking your car around, and if you are chucking your car around your car is gonna be relatively empty

im sure form a physics or mathematical point of view you are correct. it is not worth the risk from the insurance point of view, simple as.

[rich83]

These are available on camskills, but only in "BMW Spec"
http://www.camskill.co.uk/m61b0s6149p96544/Michelin_Tyres_Car_Michelin_SuperSport_Pilot_Michelin_Super_Sport_-_225_40R18_88Y_%28%2A%29_TL_

Can these be used on the mk5? I notice that they are not Extra load...

[Beddie]

They'll go on and work perfectly fine imo, however the possible insurance implications due to them not being the correct load rating would probably put me off tbh

[the bruce]

In this size they only make it in BMW spec (*).
The new M135i F20 comes with these from factory (front).

On a GTI I don't see any issue with the load rating. A R32 DSG is another story.
If you run them on aftermarket wheels it's anyway a twilight zone. Most wheels
of highly reputed makes come with a TÜV certificate that allows ''88 LI'' tyres.

[Thor]

Been looking at load rating and a BMW 135i has a GVW of 2030kg carleasingmadesimple.com/business-car-leasing/bmw/1-series-convertible-special-editions/54853/technical-data/ and runs 215 40 18 on the front, these tyres have load rating of 85. 

So i know what people are saying about insurers etc but i have looked in the manuals and can't find were it specifies a load rating for the tyres.  Clearly you don't want to go below the gvw for the max load the tyres are rated too.

But there are heavier cars running load ratings lower than 88 which is what the PSS are currently being offered in.

[the bruce]

NOT the old 135i E82, I said the new M135i F20 !!!

More relevant is front axle weight, not total weight.

Agree with the rest.  Some heavier cars like BMW 335i and 335d just run '88' LI tyres.
These come from factory with e.g. 225/40 R18 88W RFT. Most RFT have a lower load index.

Don't get it wrong, the new M135i doesn't come with RFT (RunFlat) tyres as all M models don't
come with these. The above PSS definitely are conventional tyres, just with a slighly lower
load rating and BMW spec.

I'd recommend with '88' to increase tyre pressure by 5 to 10 % percent. This will surely give
the tyre sufficient load capability.

Another 'pro' for '88' rated tyres on a GTI:

Volkswagen sold the Mk.VI GTI as an option with 19" wheels (225/35 R19 88Y). This size
isn't available with a 92 rating. This is why Volkswagen equipped these with '88' rated tyres
and recommended a slightly higher tyre pressure.
When there isn't an issue on a Mk.VI GTI / ED35 why should there any issue on a Mk.V?

I've run the 225/35 R19 88Y on my GTI for almost three years (and wouldn't run 19" anymore),
but I never had tyre failure.

I will surely go for the Michelin PSS next !!

[R32UK]

Im sold 

Once the winter tyres come off in march i will be getting myself 4 of these puppies