Probably asked a lot - Pirelli vs R32

[E30Dom]

R32 gives more sense of occasion...

[E30Dom]

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[Mk5 GTian]

if you're staying standard - R32


if you plan to modify - Pirelli (tho personally i'd look for a top spec Ed30 for the money you're looking to spend. i prefer the interior and alloys)

+1. Exactly.

[Tamiyoman]

My Dads bigger than your Dad!!  

Unless he is 6' 5" he aint  

These eddie v Lump topics are great fun 

But surely if you say 6' 5'' I have to say 6' 6''........... 

In that case your dad's bigger, but i'm sure my dad would knock your dad out 

[Ree]

Simply Test drive both cars !

See what you like, I did this and for me it had to be the R32 this was 20 months ago and I am still smiling 

[R32UK]

For the sake of clarity I'm really not bothered which is faster in a straight line. They are both more than quick enough for me and I'll usually have the family on board. But thanks so far :)

If this is the case (and the slightly extra cost of running cost doesnt bother you) then I would jump straight in the R32 and not look back. I found the ride more comfortable, less drama (see understeer for details), and its definatley more of a GT car than a hothatch (which is why you will find such a difference of opinion).

I found mine more stable than the gti but you could probably put this down to better weight distrubution and the AWD, which means you dont have to wait until its stone dry to 'show off' you are 0.001 sec faster in a straight line. 


anyone want to buy a ED30 

[Janner_Sy]

If your looking for more power fromtuning then the R32 is a no go IMO.

But if your not after any more power and 255Hp is enough then R32 all day long.  TBH i used to average 22mpg around town and 33mpg on the motorway in my vRS.  Thats probably not much more than what an R32 gets is it?

On a side not, how does the R32 rate in the handling department compared to an Ed30 Stock v Stock?  We know it has infinitely more grip, and also has better brakes, but is it that far behind in the handling front?

[R32UK]

If your looking for more power fromtuning then the R32 is a no go IMO.

But if your not after any more power and 255Hp is enough then R32 all day long.  TBH i used to average 22mpg around town and 33mpg on the motorway in my vRS.  Thats probably not much more than what an R32 gets is it?

On a side not, how does the R32 rate in the handling department compared to an Ed30 Stock v Stock?  We know it has infinitely more grip, and also has better brakes, but is it that far behind in the handling front?

for what its worth the R32 was about 3secs per lap quicker than the GTI and around 2secs quicker per lap than a ED30 around the TG track. Over a regular length race the Ed30 would be getting lapped ..... not that it matters though of course 

[Janner_Sy]

This has got me looking at R32s lol.

it might force me to stop spending money on power mods

[Tinytim]

I'm surprised at how many people would prefer the R32 over an ED30 especially on a GTi forum.

I went from an R32 to a Pirelli and I'm glad I did. The R32 is over weight and under powered.
The GTI just feels so much more nimble and the engine is great.
Don't think i'd go back to a naturally aspirated engine again.

With the 3.2 bing dropped in favour of the 2.0 litre turbo I think it shows which is the better option.

Look around its happening a lot.
BMW M5
Audi S4
New M3 when that comes out.

All going for smaller engines with charges and have better stats than their overweight predecessors.

Talking of the current S4 which went from a 4.2 V8 -> 3.0 with a charger. Does anyone know why the S5 has a V8 still?
Was it out earlier than the S4?

[Tinytim]

Just noticed the facelift S5 will have the 3.0 fitted instead of the 4.2

Backs up the argument really why it's the better choice going for the 2.0T over the 3.2 in the golf.

[RedRobin]

^^^^
Although we are essentially a GTI forum, one of the great things about most of us on here is that we are not blinkered and can appreciate other performance cars. Besides, the R32 is one of GTI's 'brothers' - Another version of the Golf.

I think that the move to smaller engines by car manufacturers has more to do with emissions and is forced by environmental considerations and rules.

I agree with you in finding the GTI more nimble than the R32 having test driven each back-to-back on a 40-mile lap on the same day. But it's ultimately down to individual preference.

[Minky77]

Having gone from a mk4 R32 for 2 years (which i loved dearly for its looks n sound track but knew that a remapped k03 gti would probably would woop mah a55), i then migrated to a 57 reg B7 Audi RS4 saloon\sprint blue\buckets\fbsw etc for over 3 years,selling it in feb this yr - what a magnificant epic car which honestly left me + my mrs dumbfounded by its performance and potenetial at times (against other supercars + superbikes!) and im an ex biker.....not much if anything could keep up.

I then started my own business (this year) and had no need ....eherrrm .....for a 4.2 v8 RS4 so unfortunately got rid >:( ..... Plus we got a dog which meant more than a car but she was never meant to set foot in the RS! Gutted

Then bought a clio 197 and had a blast in that for a few months before passing that on to my girlfriend - crackin rev n rip go kart-esque approach. Didnt have the throttle response of the 182s my gf had test driven recently but preferred the modern looks and overall more modern feel etc.

Anyway just got my hands on an 06 leon fr tfsi at a great price and tbh cannot fault it.....at all. Stage 1 booked in for next week. (bwa lump)  
Test driven several 8p K04  S3`s and although very impressive on boost, i actually dig the response my k03 offers n look forward to its remap offerings...

"similar torque" to the R32 and feels a lot more aggressive n quicker than the figures suggest.

Only my 2nd ever turbo'd car after an mr2 tubby 3sgte years ago....and have looked at ed30's n pirelli editions b4 aswell as mk5 r32s before ... I WOULD HONESTLY go for a Pirelli\Ed30 with a stage 1 remap and be happy with that..for many reasons.

I adored my mk 4 R32 (and much prefer a mk4 R32 over mk5s) sound track and my B7 RS4 was imho orgasmic although at times lacked low end grunt ... :o
However....fuel, road tax, insurance etc etc soon take its toll (although the RS4 was better on fuel on a run than the R32!) and
 personal circumstance has a big SAY in it but for me as with anyone.. Having done the v6 4motion, R32 and 4.2 RS4 thang ..... Rightly or wrongly..regardless of my previous loves....I am uber impressed with my bwa leon tsi FR....and look forward to tweeking its n1pples til it squeels like a pig ;D

Did that help at all lol?

Probably not (well i am on pint number 9 after a dog walk/pub crawl lol)


Get a pirelli plus remap....more nimble, tunable n "potentially" cheaper to run ;D .... Gulp


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[Tinytim]

I think that the move to smaller engines by car manufacturers has more to do with emissions and is forced by environmental considerations and rules.

Do you know what the actual deal is with this? I see it branded round a lot.
Is there actually something stopping VW putting  massive engine in a golf?

While BMW and Mercedes and many others continue to put huge engines in their cars I don't understand why the likes of R32's are a dying breed.

[maxload]

for what its worth the R32 was about 3secs per lap quicker than the GTI and around 2secs quicker per lap than a ED30 around the TG track. Over a regular length race the Ed30 would be getting lapped ..... not that it matters though of course