does a dsg remap definitely increase torque?

[chris s]

I have been considering getting my dsg remapped as i hear good things on th whole. But can anyone tell me if there is definitely an increase in torque ? I believe there are no real power gains tho

[Hurdy]

There will be no extra torque with a DSG map. What there will be is a firmer and full delivery of what torque you have. The torque limiter is raised in the DSG box and the map also increases the clamping pressure on the clutch packs giving a combined result of more AVAILABLE torque. The DSG map is well worth it.

[Tamiyoman]

Can recommend it for anyone running stage 1 or above with DSG, had my car mapped stage 2 and DSG box was limiting torque to 293lb/ft, after R-Tech DSG remap and back to Jabbasport for remap tweak was making 342lb/ft torque (power stayed the same).

Well worth having it done, as hurdy says clamping pressure is increased and also gear changes speed up by around 25-30% 

[RedRobin]

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Even on the K03 DSG, Revo's DSG stage 1 delivers subtle but solid improvements. The whole gearbox and drive suddenly felt a lot smoother after the DSG was remapped.

Regular DSG oil servicing helps too.

[Tamiyoman]

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Even on the K03 DSG, Revo's DSG stage 1 delivers subtle but solid improvements. The whole gearbox and drive suddenly felt a lot smoother after the DSG was remapped.

Regular DSG oil servicing helps too.

VW say every 4 years for std oil change on DSG, altho being stage 2 I am probably going for DSG oil changes every 18-24 months (roughly 10-14k miles for me).

Forgot to add that as well as other changes I also had rpm limit increased from 6500rpm to 7000rpm, so now it revs cleanly through to 7krpm 

[Keith@APR]

Its weird to me that none of our ECU calibrations have had issues with DSG torque limiters.  I think you need a DSG map for the higher shift points, faster shifts, etc. as others have said but I'm pretty sure you can accomplish all of the torque delivery on the ECU side.

I'm about to begin testing higher launch control rev limiters done on the ECU side as well.

and yeah, as others have said, removing that torque limiter won't actually increase the torque output, the extra torque is always there and in our case, with or without a DSG remap.

[heavyd]

Depends who you get the remap from.
Heres a shark performance stage 3 remap on my car before a dsg map



heres after
 


I thought it made for faster and smoother gear changes after the dsg remap was done

this was Revo vs superchips BEFORE the dsg remap

[Keith@APR]

Here is a MK5 DSG with our soon to be released K04 upgrade v2.0.  OEM DSG

[heavyd]

Nice looking graph there keith
What hardware was required with that upgrade then?
Must say, it looks like apr is winning the power battle by the looks of it

[Keith@APR]

APR K04 v2.0 Remap (not released yet)
APR HPFP
APR Intercooler
ITG Intake
Milltek Quad Tip Full Exhaust
Shell Vpower
OEM DV reroute

[PDT]

Not trying to cause a big dyno debate, but can I ask why the intake temps are so much higher that room temps on that graph Keith?

[Keith@APR]

Not trying to cause a big dyno debate, but can I ask why the intake temps are so much higher that room temps on that graph Keith?

Its IAT's measured from the OBD port as in actual engine IAT's as measured by the IAT sensor on the engine and not ambient air temps as measured by an ambient temp probe just hanging out in the shop.

Just look at engine power as listed on the graph instead of corrected power to remove IAT's from the equation if you prefer, making it 357BHP instead of 362BHP.

[Keith@APR]

Sorry, as someone pointed out on FB, it also has an APR Intercooler and OEM DV reroute in addition to the mod list I posted above.  I edited the post to add it in.

[RedED30]

Sorry, as someone pointed out on FB, it also has an APR Intercooler and OEM DV reroute in addition to the mod list I posted above.  I edited the post to add it in.

DV Reroute?

I assume this means that you have moved the location of the valve or routing of the (VW version of) vac pipes?

[GTI5]

Does modifying the DSG as discussed above reduce the life of the gearbox components significantly?

Also what about impact to engine mounts/transmission mounts and cv joint bearings etc

Thanks