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Re: The Mk7
« Reply #90 on: September 06, 2012, 10:18:11 am »
Just found this on VW Vortex's facebook



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Re: The Mk7
« Reply #91 on: September 06, 2012, 10:33:36 am »
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I respect a point of view about residuals, Andrew, but I think that many of us choose a car simply because it's love at first sight. Just like choosing girlfriends/wives/partners, our choices aren't cold and rational.

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Again, I agree, but it's hardly relevant in a conversation about value is it? We're not talking about which car excites you, simply cold hard, emotion free value for money.


....Sorry but I thought this thread was about the Mk7 and whether we like it enough to consider buying one.

Sorry Robin, I'm being pedantic, but the post you responded to was made in relation to Uz comparing a number of cars based purely on which one he thought provided the best value for money. I'd never choose a car that way but for some it's important.

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Re: The Mk7
« Reply #92 on: September 06, 2012, 12:12:06 pm »
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I respect a point of view about residuals, Andrew, but I think that many of us choose a car simply because it's love at first sight. Just like choosing girlfriends/wives/partners, our choices aren't cold and rational.

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Why i respect your outlook and the stage of your life (no offence of course RR) we are not all in a similar position to you. Many of us use our cars as a primary means of transport to and from work.

We have to simply factor in things such as milage/usage/maintenence/running cost etc and part of that means knowing that your newly purchased asset will not depreciate like a vauxhall/alfa etc. While these brands tend to cushion the blow somewhat by fancy looking finance deals... for those paying cash its important to keep an eye on these things. With a Golf you know  your money is safe.

Which is why despite some people considering the other brands 'better value' the golf still outsells them all.

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Re: The Mk7
« Reply #93 on: September 06, 2012, 01:18:08 pm »
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I respect a point of view about residuals, Andrew, but I think that many of us choose a car simply because it's love at first sight. Just like choosing girlfriends/wives/partners, our choices aren't cold and rational.

(Sent from my iPad @ JKM)

Again, I agree, but it's hardly relevant in a conversation about value is it? We're not talking about which car excites you, simply cold hard, emotion free value for money.


....Sorry but I thought this thread was about the Mk7 and whether we like it enough to consider buying one.

Sorry Robin, I'm being pedantic, but the post you responded to was made in relation to Uz comparing a number of cars based purely on which one he thought provided the best value for money. I'd never choose a car that way but for some it's important.
Not which provided value for money, but which one for the money spent we would prefer.

I'd much prefer an A-Class at £26k to a Golf at £25k in ideal spec; that's what I was saying.

Like Robin said, we're not the sort of people to worry too much about resale values, because we want a car we love. I'd struggle to love a Mk6 Golf knowing I could have bought a new model A3 or A-Class for £1k more. My main point was that those two both feel like they should be a fair chunk more expensive than the Golf. Like I said, the Mk7 should remedy that, but I still don't expect it to be on the BMW, Audi, Merc level...
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Re: The Mk7
« Reply #94 on: September 06, 2012, 01:20:03 pm »
Much more like the black/silver interior:






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Re: The Mk7
« Reply #95 on: September 06, 2012, 01:34:30 pm »
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I respect a point of view about residuals, Andrew, but I think that many of us choose a car simply because it's love at first sight. Just like choosing girlfriends/wives/partners, our choices aren't cold and rational.

(Sent from my iPad @ JKM)

Why i respect your outlook and the stage of your life (no offence of course RR) we are not all in a similar position to you. Many of us use our cars as a primary means of transport to and from work.

We have to simply factor in things such as milage/usage/maintenence/running cost etc and part of that means knowing that your newly purchased asset will not depreciate like a vauxhall/alfa etc. While these brands tend to cushion the blow somewhat by fancy looking finance deals... for those paying cash its important to keep an eye on these things. With a Golf you know  your money is safe.

Which is why despite some people considering the other brands 'better value' the golf still outsells them all.
This is an excellent point; as a family we tend to keep our cars for longer than 3 years, anyway (except for my brother, whose Mini Cooper and Mk5 GTi had reliability issues), so maybe my viewpoint is skewed. In the longer run, it works out better financially, and with the build quality of VW not being what it once was, I just think that should also be taken into account when comparing.

What I was mainly comparing the Golf to wasn't the Alfa (that was merely the subject of a post or two), but the premium German cars which are closer to the Golf than one might hope for, or expect, and in almost every field you mentioned, they're safer bets if you are buying a well-specified car (sensors, sat nav, leather).

We've been looking at the market so we can buy a car for my sister, and she will need those three options, and wants 17" wheels.
The extra £800 or so is a bargain for what is a gorgeous car with the nicest interior in the class. At that price differential, we immediately discarded the Mk6 Golf.
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Re: The Mk7
« Reply #96 on: September 06, 2012, 01:44:46 pm »
Much more like the black/silver interior...

I guess going for black leather with piano black trim will result in a very dark, dull cabin. It is just a touch too much silver for my liking though.

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Re: The Mk7
« Reply #97 on: September 06, 2012, 02:12:10 pm »
Much more like the black/silver interior...

I guess going for black leather with piano black trim will result in a very dark, dull cabin. It is just a touch too much silver for my liking though.

I definitely prefer the black/silver interior but also IMO there is a bit too much silver.
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Re: The Mk7
« Reply #98 on: September 06, 2012, 04:06:41 pm »
Prefer the black/silver interior. I don't care about things looking "too dark". What's important to me is function and layout eg controls should easy to find and use without taking your eyes off the road.

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Re: The Mk7
« Reply #99 on: September 06, 2012, 04:33:23 pm »
Much more like the black/silver interior...

I guess going for black leather with piano black trim will result in a very dark, dull cabin. It is just a touch too much silver for my liking though.

I definitely prefer the black/silver interior but also IMO there is a bit too much silver.


Agree with you. A touch less would have been better to my liking.
Both the Mk.V GTI brushed aluminium trim (while just fake plastic) and the A3 8P (real) alu trims looked really good.



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Re: The Mk7
« Reply #100 on: September 06, 2012, 05:59:24 pm »
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Re: The Mk7
« Reply #101 on: September 06, 2012, 06:15:57 pm »

I hope Stop/Start and run-flats are optional on the GTi. And why do we need electric handbrakes?

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Re: The Mk7
« Reply #102 on: September 06, 2012, 06:25:10 pm »
Stop/Start is optional even if the car has it. You either turn it off or on.

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Re: The Mk7
« Reply #103 on: September 06, 2012, 06:25:19 pm »
Why do we need runflats? Esp given BMW drivers tend to swap them over for standard tyres?

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Re: The Mk7
« Reply #104 on: September 06, 2012, 06:27:55 pm »
It's live on the VW website in Germany, with the configurator working

the gallery has pics of interior and exterior

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