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Re: Spark Plugs
« Reply #15 on: June 09, 2009, 03:03:10 pm »
Quote from: RedRobin on June 09, 2009, 11:10:42 am
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I've forgotten, but aren't the oem plugs NGK?
No they are rebranded Bosch...   :smiley:
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Re: Spark Plugs
« Reply #16 on: June 09, 2009, 04:18:34 pm »
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Well, AFAIK the oem plugs are good enough for VWR's race cars, so that's good enough for me. I just change plugs every 20k miles.

Mind you, VWR do change their components as often as some of us change our underwear!
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Re: Spark Plugs
« Reply #17 on: June 11, 2009, 03:38:45 pm »
Anyboby seen these, Are they as good as they claim?

http://www.potn.co.uk/p1642421.htm
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Re: Spark Plugs
« Reply #18 on: June 11, 2009, 07:39:47 pm »
they are for use with only the AXX engine - which is the early version.

Why only this one I wonder... there was something about the AXX engine which made it the last of a specific type but I cant remember what it was now.
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Re: Spark Plugs
« Reply #19 on: June 11, 2009, 07:45:55 pm »
Quote from: neg on June 11, 2009, 07:39:47 pm
they are for use with only the AXX engine - which is the early version.

Why only this one I wonder... there was something about the AXX engine which made it the last of a specific type but I cant remember what it was now.
Supposedly the last of the true FSI lean burn engines...
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Re: Spark Plugs
« Reply #20 on: June 11, 2009, 08:17:11 pm »
Talking of Spark Plug I was told by a VW Dealer the recommended interval is now 60K for the BYD engine in the ED30 when I asked for the cost for the 40K service while getting Mrs PG car done today.  :surprised:

I won't be waiting that long, it really does seam VW are pushing the limits of the parts these days and I wonder if this is to help things like the cost of ownership comparisons ???
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Re: Spark Plugs
« Reply #21 on: June 11, 2009, 11:00:10 pm »
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Steve, I've been advised by several tuners and others whose opinions I respect, that it's good practice to change plugs every 20k miles on a tuned engine. It's not expensive and a wise precaution to help everything run sweet.

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Re: Spark Plugs
« Reply #22 on: June 11, 2009, 11:00:43 pm »
Quote from: SteveP on June 11, 2009, 08:17:11 pm
Talking of Spark Plug I was told by a VW Dealer the recommended interval is now 60K for the BYD engine in the ED30 when I asked for the cost for the 40K service while getting Mrs PG car done today.  :surprised:

I won't be waiting that long, it really does seam VW are pushing the limits of the parts these days and I wonder if this is to help things like the cost of ownership comparisons ???

I assume its so that lease car companies will favour VWs....
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Re: Spark Plugs
« Reply #23 on: June 12, 2009, 12:10:38 am »
Quote from: RedRobin on June 11, 2009, 11:00:10 pm
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Steve, I've been advised by several tuners and others whose opinions I respect, that it's good practice to change plugs every 20k miles on a tuned engine. It's not expensive and a wise precaution to help everything run sweet.

:happy2:

I agree, I had an occasional missfire problem which was down to a dodgy plug after 20k so I would recommend the same - for the sake of what - £40
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Re: Spark Plugs
« Reply #24 on: June 12, 2009, 07:36:54 am »
Hi guys, the pulse plugs wouldnt cause damage as the knock sensor or i should say sensors should be in ultimate control of your timing. There seems to have been a lot written about these plugs and we have even been sent info out on them to allow us to add into ignition courses we run. Like a few of you i would like to try and see what they do as "proof is in the pudding".

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Re: Spark Plugs
« Reply #25 on: June 12, 2009, 07:38:42 am »
Quote from: RedRobin on June 11, 2009, 11:00:10 pm
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Steve, I've been advised by several tuners and others whose opinions I respect, that it's good practice to change plugs every 20k miles on a tuned engine. It's not expensive and a wise precaution to help everything run sweet.

:happy2:

It's something I do already Robin  :happy2:
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Re: Spark Plugs
« Reply #26 on: June 12, 2009, 11:18:46 am »
Quote from: iainalpine on June 12, 2009, 07:36:54 am

Like a few of you i would like to try and see what they do as "proof is in the pudding".

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Re: Spark Plugs
« Reply #27 on: June 12, 2009, 12:03:59 pm »
You can tell if your running the wrong or right heat grade of plugs by how they are burning. Take them out and compare the non-gloss ceramic and spark tip to a spark plug colour guide.

(I have a guide on my home pc so will post it up tonight)


There are also other symptoms to too hot or cold a plug. Too cold a plug can result result in bad start-ups and can result in mis-firing.

Too hot a plug can lead to detonation (det) or pre-ignition issues. (not a good thing)
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Re: Spark Plugs
« Reply #28 on: June 12, 2009, 12:11:49 pm »
Cheapest place to order the BKR7 NGK's is here: http://www.spark-plugs.co.uk/

£6.77 inc VAT each.

Thats £27.08 a set + p&p.

I change mine every 12 months. I just order them from the website above and put them on the passenger seat in the car when it goes into VW.

Me being me, I also check to see if they've done the job!  :indifferent: :grin:
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Re: Spark Plugs
« Reply #29 on: June 29, 2009, 06:10:17 pm »
Quote from: iainalpine on June 08, 2009, 02:56:03 pm
Have a look at these mate. There have been some real good things being posted about them. Also have a look on the site with the demo on how the flame front moves http://www.pulstar.com/ignitionvelocity.htm

Snake oils, and pure BS.  The spark only initiates the combustion process - the spark has jack schit to do with the speed of the flame front

Quote from: iainalpine on June 08, 2009, 02:56:03 pm
There is some real interesting stuff here. With these in place you could advance the timing quite a bit which would increase BHP and Torq.

And burn holes in your pistons.  :sad:

Just stick with the OEM plugs, they are afterall good enough for the S3!
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