Mods for Traction

[Gazza747]

Not sure if i'm posting in the right section but want some advice:

Just had a new turbo fitted and have much more power than before  

I have tested the car, all in the dry so far and have had traction/torque steer issues. First time was on a flat stretch of road and in second put my foot down and got wheel spin with the esp kicking in.

Then on another road put my foot down and as it was a bumpy road got torque steer.

My question is I was thinking about better tyres but then i would get more torque steer. Again with WALK more torque steer. I then thought about a better diff but that would cost £££.

Any ideas?

Also this is standard so going stage 1 would be worse i guess. I could get a 4wd instead I guess!

[RedRobin]

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From what you are telling us, I think that your first thing to do is to use your right foot more smoothly and progressively. Please don't don't interpret my words as any form of insult or piss-take - I believe I am giving you good advice.

I assume your tyres have plenty of tread and are correctly inflated.

I wouldn't do any mods to your car until you have mastered how to get the standard power down on the road. Power is useless without traction.

[RedRobin]

Just had a new turbo fitted and have much more power than before 

....A new turbo of the same type as previously, or a bigger turbo?

On what engine in what car?

[Gazza747]

The front tyres have about 4mm of tread and the rears about 7mm and I will check the inflation but I thing they are ok.

The turbo is new from VW so would be the K03 I guess as the car is a standard mk5 GTI 2007.

[Gazza747]

I wonder if a custom map would help?

[Gazza747]

Also i mentioned the 4wd as this would enable me to put my foot down and get full traction?

[RENNTAG]

I think you are getting a bit ahead of yourself with 4wd. unless you plan on getting a different car all together.

What brand of tyres do you have?

And are you trying to get all the power down from a standing start?

[Gazza747]

Was considering a mk5 R32 before and is still in my mind but i really like the GTI.

Yes was trying to pit the power down from a standing start, my car is a manual by the way.

[RENNTAG]

Well i think as Robin says you need to be a bit more progressive with your right foot. Unfortunately a front wheel drive car will always struggle to get the power down from a standing start. By being able to ease the power in when you have enough grip you will be able to get much better acceleration.

However if you are looking to mod the car you can fit WALK, uprated engine mounts, better suspension and if your really struggling a limited slip diff. But for a standard power car maybe just improving your driving technique would be a worthwhile improvement.

Same as Robin i dont want to insult you, just trying to give advise 

[Gazza747]

All advice gratefully received 

I have test driven lots of cars but as for owning this is the most powerfull of the lot. I guess I need to make a decision on whether I stick with the 2wd and adapt my driving and maybe mod later or look at the 4wd option.

[RENNTAG]

Stick with the GTI 

In time you will get to know the car better and be able to control the power better. Also if you do start modding in the future the GTI has alot of pottential when it comes to modding 

[RedRobin]

All advice gratefully received  

I have test driven lots of cars but as for owning this is the most powerfull of the lot. I guess I need to make a decision on whether I stick with the 2wd and adapt my driving and maybe mod later or look at the 4wd option.

....Adapt your driving. Rather than start by spending money on performance mods I would consider doing an advanced course such as CarLimits (in your car on an airfield) or Drivetrain (in your car on public roads). It's like remapping your brain (especially Drivetrain) and will stay with you whatever you drive. I use Drivetrain techniques every single time I drive - It's based on The Police Driver's Handbook and the instructor is a very highly qualified Police Instructor.

I had never owned a FWD car before and decided to do a CarLimits day early on. 4 of us from another forum did it together, all in Mk5 GTI's.

CarLimits is more about the car's limits and Drivetrain more about your driving limits. A much better investment than any car engine remap!

But start off by training your right foot  

[PDT]

Limited slip diff.

[RedED30]

Spend some money on some race driver tuition or see if you can get some form of remap from Revo and use their linear throttle settings.

A friend of mine in a non VAG environment went to the n'th degree of power, weight reduction and brakes and i spent lots less having the race driver tuition and was slightly faster

[RedRobin]

Limited slip diff.

....An excellent mod for later but he hasn't learnt how to use his right foot yet.