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UPDATE 17 Monzas for 18 Monzas is it a good deal?
« on: September 20, 2012, 12:51:59 pm »
Hi Guys,

I've been offered straigh swap deal my 17 inch monzas with tires for 18 inch monzas with tires. My tires are conti sport 3 all round fronts 6 mm left and rears 4 mm left (done 10k miles on those). The 18 inch monzas come with budget tires Altenzo and Wantli. Both Monzas oroginal

Never heard of those brands but I will be getting new tires early next year after the winter. Both alloys with slight curbing nothing major.

Does it look like a good deal to you? Also is there a way to check alloys for originality or with the copies quality these days it's not possible???

Paul
« Last Edit: September 22, 2012, 03:55:04 pm by Kregiel »
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Re: 17 Monzas for 18 Monzas is it a good deal?
« Reply #1 on: September 20, 2012, 12:56:21 pm »
Stamps and offset. Are the Monza II alloys in good condition?

Sounds like a strange deal as IIRC Monza + tyres are around £300 wheras Monza II alone reach £500+ depending on condition.

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Re: 17 Monzas for 18 Monzas is it a good deal?
« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2012, 01:17:17 pm »
Monzas 2 are slightly more curbed then mine, both far from being perfect. The seller wants 17 for cheaper tires hence budget tires he put on... Also my tires have more thread and twice the price as his etc

What's the offset and stamps on monzas 18s?

Thanks

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Re: 17 Monzas for 18 Monzas is it a good deal?
« Reply #3 on: September 20, 2012, 03:42:04 pm »
Hi Guys,

Am I correct in saying the for original monzas 2 the correct measurements are 7.5 x 18 ET 51 made by BBS

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Re: 17 Monzas for 18 Monzas is it a good deal?
« Reply #4 on: September 20, 2012, 04:41:25 pm »
^^^Yes. Exactly. Some were made by Ronal, may be the only difference.
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Re: 17 Monzas for 18 Monzas is it a good deal?
« Reply #5 on: September 21, 2012, 11:25:18 am »
Cheers Guys!

Any last minute advice please?

I am meeting this guy tomorrow for a straight swap.... My only concern will be checking originality on 18 inch Monzas. He claims they are original but whether I will be able to figure it out or not I am not so sure.

Read all threads here but if anybody wants to add some more info all is gratefully received!

Thanks a mill
Paul
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Re: 17 Monzas for 18 Monzas is it a good deal?
« Reply #6 on: September 21, 2012, 11:53:46 am »
Will also have VW AG stamped on them.
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Re: 17 Monzas for 18 Monzas is it a good deal?
« Reply #7 on: September 21, 2012, 01:27:18 pm »
Post up a pic if you have any. We can usually tell if they are real or not :happy2:
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Re: 17 Monzas for 18 Monzas is it a good deal?
« Reply #8 on: September 21, 2012, 06:12:32 pm »
Just check that the offsets are et 51
As far as im aware all copys are et 51 !
There is a 90% chance they will say bbs aswell as the other 10% are ronal
If not walk away !
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Re: 17 Monzas for 18 Monzas is it a good deal?
« Reply #9 on: September 21, 2012, 07:44:01 pm »
Just check that the offsets are et 51
As far as im aware all copys are et 51 !
There is a 90% chance they will say bbs aswell as the other 10% are ronal
If not walk away !


I assume u mean that all copies are NOT et 51?
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Re: 17 Monzas for 18 Monzas is it a good deal?
« Reply #10 on: September 22, 2012, 11:11:47 am »
I did a similar swap a couple if years ago - had some slightly kerbed 18's, 2 worn tyres, 2 good which I swapped for some slightly better 17's with 4 good tyres.

I had the 18's on a Touran after selling my Golf and the buyer didn't want them - wanted to swap to 17's due to some rubbing

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UPDATE 17 Monzas for 18 Monzas is it a good deal?
« Reply #11 on: September 22, 2012, 03:54:46 pm »
Hi Guys,

Did the swap today.  :jumping:

Very happy! My 17s alloys were slightly better condition but over estimated the tires condition - turned out mine were 2mm on the rear and 4 mm on the fronts - Conti SPorts 3. The ones I got with 18 inch are budget tires around 8 mm all around. Decided to compensate 50 euros to the seller for this fact as a good will gesture!

They are genuine 18 inch Monzas based on all the good info I got here which I will refurb come new year after the winter and new performance tires!

See some pics below 











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Re: UPDATE 17 Monzas for 18 Monzas is it a good deal?
« Reply #12 on: September 22, 2012, 04:15:32 pm »
Good swap!


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Re: UPDATE 17 Monzas for 18 Monzas is it a good deal?
« Reply #13 on: September 22, 2012, 04:16:41 pm »
Well done, those are in pretty decent nick.
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Re: UPDATE 17 Monzas for 18 Monzas is it a good deal?
« Reply #14 on: September 22, 2012, 04:44:05 pm »
You did well there Paul  :congrats: