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Re: monza v monza shadows
« Reply #30 on: September 25, 2012, 02:07:17 pm »
This gives a good overview of the differences between a cast alloy wheel and a forged wheel -

http://www.buzzle.com/articles/forged-wheels-vs-cast-wheels.html

As well as my concerns on strength I'd also be worried that if you do damage a wheel, say 12-months down the line, there may be no guarantee you'd be able to replace it with an identical replica. They do vary quite dramatically.

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Re: monza v monza shadows
« Reply #31 on: September 25, 2012, 02:15:30 pm »
I was pretty much a newbie when I got my Monza's sorted.  Bought second hand BBS 18" wheels in reasonable nick for £400 (could have got them slightly cheaper off here) refurb then cost just over £400 plus £114 a corner on Goodyears it all adds up to an awful lot of wedge.  If you can pick a decent pair up that don't need a refurb then that's a bonus.  If you get ones that do need refurbing be aware of the total this will cost.  :happy2:


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Re: monza v monza shadows
« Reply #32 on: September 25, 2012, 02:19:13 pm »
I was pretty much a newbie when I got my Monza's sorted.  Bought second hand BBS 18" wheels in reasonable nick for £400 (could have got them slightly cheaper off here) refurb then cost just over £400 plus £114 a corner on Goodyears it all adds up to an awful lot of wedge.  If you can pick a decent pair up that don't need a refurb then that's a bonus.  If you get ones that do need refurbing be aware of the total this will cost.  :happy2:



Thats still cheaper than the almost £800 a corner that VW will relieve you of for a new one and matching tyre!
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Re: monza v monza shadows
« Reply #33 on: September 25, 2012, 02:21:36 pm »
I was pretty much a newbie when I got my Monza's sorted.  Bought second hand BBS 18" wheels in reasonable nick for £400 (could have got them slightly cheaper off here) refurb then cost just over £400 plus £114 a corner on Goodyears it all adds up to an awful lot of wedge.  If you can pick a decent pair up that don't need a refurb then that's a bonus.  If you get ones that do need refurbing be aware of the total this will cost.  :happy2:



Thats still cheaper than the almost £800 a corner that VW will relieve you of for a new one and matching tyre!

 :confused: That makes me feel better about my spend  :happy2:

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Re: monza v monza shadows
« Reply #34 on: September 25, 2012, 02:33:35 pm »
This gives a good overview of the differences between a cast alloy wheel and a forged wheel -

http://www.buzzle.com/articles/forged-wheels-vs-cast-wheels.html

As well as my concerns on strength I'd also be worried that if you do damage a wheel, say 12-months down the line, there may be no guarantee you'd be able to replace it with an identical replica. They do vary quite dramatically.

There are a number of company's selling alloys for about £150 per corner. I assume these are all cast alloys even though they are not replicas?
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Re: monza v monza shadows
« Reply #35 on: September 25, 2012, 02:43:32 pm »
hi rob, yes they look refurbed, places like kwik fit used to do this until they closed up recently, guess it wasnt paying out in that department but i knew the manager and all they done was sanded down and hand sprayed over, looks like that was done to yours but hard to see without close up pic,,, still trying to find out how durable the diamond cut wheels are, are you happy with your wheels or are you going to change them ?

its a good job the silver is  quite reflective , i like the ed30 wheels but people will then claim I'm trying to make it look like one and i have a GTI which is why i like the cloth seats I'll get a close up when i wash the wheels next


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Re: monza v monza shadows
« Reply #36 on: September 25, 2012, 02:46:59 pm »
This gives a good overview of the differences between a cast alloy wheel and a forged wheel -

http://www.buzzle.com/articles/forged-wheels-vs-cast-wheels.html

As well as my concerns on strength I'd also be worried that if you do damage a wheel, say 12-months down the line, there may be no guarantee you'd be able to replace it with an identical replica. They do vary quite dramatically.

There are a number of company's selling alloys for about £150 per corner. I assume these are all cast alloys even though they are not replicas?

Yes, I think they would be cast. I'm not saying there is anything particularly wrong with cast alloys, simply that forged alloys are superior. Also, if I remember rightly, the 17" Monzas are a cast alloy.

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Re: monza v monza shadows
« Reply #37 on: September 25, 2012, 02:51:21 pm »
This gives a good overview of the differences between a cast alloy wheel and a forged wheel -

http://www.buzzle.com/articles/forged-wheels-vs-cast-wheels.html

As well as my concerns on strength I'd also be worried that if you do damage a wheel, say 12-months down the line, there may be no guarantee you'd be able to replace it with an identical replica. They do vary quite dramatically.
thank you for the link will check it out, i see your point regarding the difficulty if needing 1 more wheel, fortunatelly i know where they came from only 20 miles away the company but i agree i do not know durability etc on them, one of the reasons i joined this forum to find things like this out, i genuinelly only put dealer parts on my old golf and my wifes and dont touch anything after market - even down to the spark plugs but when i bought this car they put new wheels on it and would be silly for me to just disreggard them but i will keep an eye on their wear,,,, i still may buy original shadow ones and sell these before i get any marks on them but i will think it over,,,,, what do you think a realistic price would be for me to sell the set i have ?
they are 1 week old, no flaws i can see, 18 normal monzas with the diamond cut etc and they have a set of michelin on them all matching with around 4mm of even wear on them,,,,, may help me contribute if i change the whole wheels and tyres
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Re: monza v monza shadows
« Reply #38 on: September 25, 2012, 03:32:58 pm »
Scott did you say your current 18's are all one colour? If so, then they have either been repainted at some point or they are not original Monzas. The original 18" Monzas for the MK5GTI have grey inserts. Only the 17's came as one colour.
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Re: monza v monza shadows
« Reply #39 on: September 25, 2012, 03:46:30 pm »
Scott did you say your current 18's are all one colour? If so, then they have either been repainted at some point or they are not original Monzas. The original 18" Monzas for the MK5GTI have grey inserts. Only the 17's came as one colour.
yes they are grey all over, 1 colour, they are 18s, i know they are replicas as the guy at the garage told me and i know where he got them from and they only sell replicas, def not recnditioned they are brand new but yes they are replicas

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Re: monza v monza shadows
« Reply #40 on: September 25, 2012, 03:49:28 pm »
This gives a good overview of the differences between a cast alloy wheel and a forged wheel -

http://www.buzzle.com/articles/forged-wheels-vs-cast-wheels.html

As well as my concerns on strength I'd also be worried that if you do damage a wheel, say 12-months down the line, there may be no guarantee you'd be able to replace it with an identical replica. They do vary quite dramatically.

There are a number of company's selling alloys for about £150 per corner. I assume these are all cast alloys even though they are not replicas?
hi kalpsn,,, i see you have the rns510 c led, i have the normal audio unit with an i pod upgrade in the arm rest, was thinking what unit to upgrade it to,,, does yours have the sat nav etc,, also i take it there is a diff between the normal rns510 and the c led version - what is the diff in all,,, noticed also that the standard 8 vw speakers aint that great with base was wonderring if you have same speakers and did you notice any diff when you upgraded ?

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Re: monza v monza shadows
« Reply #41 on: September 25, 2012, 03:52:26 pm »
Oh ok then, my bad, I must have missed that bit earlier  :ashamed:
Defo want to get mine redone as shadows though!  :happy2:
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Re: monza v monza shadows
« Reply #42 on: September 25, 2012, 04:02:42 pm »
Oh ok then, my bad, I must have missed that bit earlier  :ashamed:
Defo want to get mine redone as shadows though!  :happy2:
are you going to get them re-painted with shadow colour ? any idea if it will look the same as original ones and cost ?

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Re: monza v monza shadows
« Reply #43 on: September 25, 2012, 04:21:51 pm »
This gives a good overview of the differences between a cast alloy wheel and a forged wheel -

http://www.buzzle.com/articles/forged-wheels-vs-cast-wheels.html

As well as my concerns on strength I'd also be worried that if you do damage a wheel, say 12-months down the line, there may be no guarantee you'd be able to replace it with an identical replica. They do vary quite dramatically.

There are a number of company's selling alloys for about £150 per corner. I assume these are all cast alloys even though they are not replicas?
hi kalpsn,,, i see you have the rns510 c led, i have the normal audio unit with an i pod upgrade in the arm rest, was thinking what unit to upgrade it to,,, does yours have the sat nav etc,, also i take it there is a diff between the normal rns510 and the c led version - what is the diff in all,,, noticed also that the standard 8 vw speakers aint that great with base was wonderring if you have same speakers and did you notice any diff when you upgraded ?

Yes the RNS has inbuilt sat nav which I have found to be great. When I bought mine, 18 months ago, the version C was the latest and was the first RNS with a LED screen (much better especially in sunlight). I think they are up to version H now, the usual differences are processor speed/HDD capicity. The sound is improved compared to the standard unit, even with the OEM speakers. I really like the touch screen and SD card slot as makes it easy to load music on.

Was my first major upgrade and well worth it IMO :happy2:
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Re: monza v monza shadows
« Reply #44 on: September 25, 2012, 05:36:50 pm »
This gives a good overview of the differences between a cast alloy wheel and a forged wheel -

http://www.buzzle.com/articles/forged-wheels-vs-cast-wheels.html

As well as my concerns on strength I'd also be worried that if you do damage a wheel, say 12-months down the line, there may be no guarantee you'd be able to replace it with an identical replica. They do vary quite dramatically.
THANKS FOR THAT, I WILL LOOK INTO A POSSIBLE PURCHASE AND THANKS FOR THE ( H ) POSSIBLE MODEL DETAIL

There are a number of company's selling alloys for about £150 per corner. I assume these are all cast alloys even though they are not replicas?
hi kalpsn,,, i see you have the rns510 c led, i have the normal audio unit with an i pod upgrade in the arm rest, was thinking what unit to upgrade it to,,, does yours have the sat nav etc,, also i take it there is a diff between the normal rns510 and the c led version - what is the diff in all,,, noticed also that the standard 8 vw speakers aint that great with base was wonderring if you have same speakers and did you notice any diff when you upgraded ?

Yes the RNS has inbuilt sat nav which I have found to be great. When I bought mine, 18 months ago, the version C was the latest and was the first RNS with a LED screen (much better especially in sunlight). I think they are up to version H now, the usual differences are processor speed/HDD capicity. The sound is improved compared to the standard unit, even with the OEM speakers. I really like the tough screen and SD card slot as makes it easy to load music on.

Was my first major upgrade and well worth it IMO :happy2: