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Re: Had my GTI a week and already looking to sell (MPG!!)
« Reply #15 on: October 05, 2012, 04:22:38 pm »
Yeah maybe selling so soon is a bit drastic ha, wasn't being totally serious saying that but when i read 12mpg its a bit of a wake up call! Yeah I'm reading the right display the average for the journey I'm on, the number 2 is at 27mpg but I've mainly been driving on motorways. Going to change the oil, filter and plugs soon see if it creeps up a little, id be happy with 35mpg on a normal motorway run but I've been taking it really easy trying to see what i can get and its usually between 27-32 which just seems low. One other problem I'm wondering if you could help me with, the oil filler cap isn't there? how am i meant to put oil in it? can i just buy another and it will snap on or something? Also what oil would you recommend? Cheers for the replies!

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Re: Had my GTI a week and already looking to sell (MPG!!)
« Reply #16 on: October 05, 2012, 04:26:03 pm »

One other problem I'm wondering if you could help me with, the oil filler cap isn't there? how am i meant to put oil in it? can i just buy another and it will snap on or something? Also what oil would you recommend? Cheers for the replies!


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Re: Had my GTI a week and already looking to sell (MPG!!)
« Reply #17 on: October 05, 2012, 04:27:00 pm »
are you really seeing 39-41 mpg!!?

I always get 39-41mpg cruising at 70mph on a motorway. If I push it to 80mph it drops to around 35mpg. These are the figures from the average mpg on my midline display. NB: I don't have cruise control fitted.

the oil filler cap isn't there?

What??  :scared:
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Re: Had my GTI a week and already looking to sell (MPG!!)
« Reply #18 on: October 05, 2012, 04:27:58 pm »
I am surprised by some of the figures in this thread. How are you guys getting anything like 39-41mpg :confused:

I have never seen over 34mpg and its usually around 22-28mpg.

OP something doesn't sound right as even having fun I havent seen below 20.
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Re: Had my GTI a week and already looking to sell (MPG!!)
« Reply #19 on: October 05, 2012, 04:30:09 pm »
Have to agree with the above. I've just moved from a 2.0 tdi 140 which averaged 43-45MPG around town and 50-55 MPG on a run, to a stock 55 plate GTI 5 door and you can't compare the two. You don't buy a GTI based on running costs especially when you factor in V-power @ £1.46/l (around my way), insurance, road tax, tyres etc.
I'm quite happy with the 38MPG I had on the MFA on the 40 miles drive back home when I picked it up, thats rapidly dropping as the grin factor kicks in !
MFA 1 displays around 22-24MPG around town when cold rising to around 27-28 when warmed up. Ive just accepted that's the way it is. Wouldn't go back to the tdi though (apart from the midrange torque - miss that!), the GTI beats it hands down.
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Re: Had my GTI a week and already looking to sell (MPG!!)
« Reply #20 on: October 05, 2012, 04:30:36 pm »
I think in terms of a ratio of performance to economy the 2.0TFSI is pretty poor. Even when tiptoeing around barely touching the accelerator my car still returns poor MPG. I really hope the forthcoming engine in the new GTI is a dramatic improvement or the car no longer makes sense for me as a daily driver. I'm already tempted by the MK7 1.4 TSI.

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Re: Had my GTI a week and already looking to sell (MPG!!)
« Reply #21 on: October 05, 2012, 04:33:43 pm »
How are you guys getting anything like 39-41mpg :confused:

Maybe it's because my tyres are like Telly Savalas' pate  :laugh:
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Re: Had my GTI a week and already looking to sell (MPG!!)
« Reply #22 on: October 05, 2012, 04:37:58 pm »

I think in terms of a ratio of performance to economy the 2.0TFSI is pretty poor. Even when tiptoeing around barely touching the accelerator my car still returns poor MPG. I really hope the forthcoming engine in the new GTI is a dramatic improvement or the car no longer makes sense for me as a daily driver. I'm already tempted by the MK7 1.4 TSI.


....You're probably right and applying a ratio of performance is very valid (all IMO). Remapping doesn't seem to adversely effect the mpg significantly but does deliver a definite difference in performance and therefore will influence that ratio.

Car manufacturers are increasingly developing smaller size engines with far better power but better mpg - It's what the general public want.


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Re: Had my GTI a week and already looking to sell (MPG!!)
« Reply #23 on: October 05, 2012, 04:39:43 pm »

How are you guys getting anything like 39-41mpg :confused:


Maybe it's because my tyres are like Telly Savalas' pate  :laugh:


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Re: Had my GTI a week and already looking to sell (MPG!!)
« Reply #24 on: October 05, 2012, 04:48:05 pm »
^^^Just kidding! They're budget jobs  :fighting: that came with the car and have 3-4mm tread depth left.

When I finally get my 18's I'll be fitting some real tyres, probably those GoodYear Asyms as they seem to be fantastic.
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Re: Had my GTI a week and already looking to sell (MPG!!)
« Reply #25 on: October 05, 2012, 04:51:08 pm »
No its still sealed so nothing can get in there its just the cap from it has gone so i can't unscrew it? Any ideas?

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Re: Had my GTI a week and already looking to sell (MPG!!)
« Reply #26 on: October 05, 2012, 04:51:51 pm »
Ive just traded my 2007 Ibiza 1.9tdi in for a 2006 Golf GTI, and although i was expecting nowhere near the 50+ mpg i was seeing on the diesel i was still expecting a lot better than I'm getting on the GTI. On short trips around town I'm not seeing anything above 20mpg usually around 12-15 and on a 2 hour motorway journey taking it easy, always below 80 I've yet to see it above 32mpg. Is this normal? Ive read some people getting 40mpg on motorway runs?? Love the car, so much nicer to drive than the Ibiza but i just can't afford to be putting that much petrol in, the ibiza cupra tdi is calling my name :sad1:

I think there's some mildly mis-sold or mis-purchased expectation in here unfortunately fella. You won't 'often get 40mpg on motorway runs' in a k03 or k04 GTI, that's just unrealistic. Even the most finely serviced, looked after, oil and tyre pressure maintained GTI won't do that seamlessly, even cruising below peak speeds.

The highest I ever got from mine was 44MPG over a run, but bear in mind that was a 300 mile round trip and I had to drive with economy in mind to come anywhere close.

On the way to work (a 12 mile commute one way, mixture of A and B roads 30-60mph limits) I would see 33 or 34mpg most days, but that's also taking it very steady. It would also include cruising velocity of 60-62mph for the stretch of dual carriageway (4 miles or so). It's intently boring but that's realistically the only way you'll get close to any quoted economy figures as well as close to the manufacturer quoted figures.

Blast around town and you'll see low 20mpg's, without doubt. Also, if I did the same commute I just mentioned using boost (a typical late morning  :laugh: ) while traveling up towards three figure motorway speeds on the A14, I could expect no better than a 25mpg figure simply because when using the performance, that's the volume of fuel used to deliver it.

In 3.5 years of owning my 2006 k03 GTI I saw 40mpg less than a handful of times (even on long journeys) and that was really trying.
Don't be under any false illusions, it's not built and designed for steady MPG figures  :happy2:

What you are getting seems about right of most of the driving cost experiences on here.
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Re: Had my GTI a week and already looking to sell (MPG!!)
« Reply #27 on: October 05, 2012, 04:53:28 pm »
Yeah maybe selling so soon is a bit drastic ha, wasn't being totally serious saying that but when i read 12mpg its a bit of a wake up call! Yeah I'm reading the right display the average for the journey I'm on, the number 2 is at 27mpg but I've mainly been driving on motorways. Going to change the oil, filter and plugs soon see if it creeps up a little, id be happy with 35mpg on a normal motorway run but I've been taking it really easy trying to see what i can get and its usually between 27-32 which just seems low. One other problem I'm wondering if you could help me with, the oil filler cap isn't there? how am i meant to put oil in it? can i just buy another and it will snap on or something? Also what oil would you recommend? Cheers for the replies!

I think I know what you mean about oil cap, it appears like only half of it is there right?  The cap is in two parts and it appears your top half is missing.  Just buy a new one from VW for 5-6 quid and take the other one out with a set of pliers  :smiley:

Very easy to fix, absolutely no safety concern with the car at all, just a bugger to get in to top up oil unless you fancy taking pliers round when you want to top up oil  :happy2:
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Re: Had my GTI a week and already looking to sell (MPG!!)
« Reply #28 on: October 05, 2012, 04:54:21 pm »
No its still sealed so nothing can get in there its just the cap from it has gone so i can't unscrew it? Any ideas?

See my post above  :happy2:
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Re: Had my GTI a week and already looking to sell (MPG!!)
« Reply #29 on: October 05, 2012, 04:59:14 pm »
This thread is the reason why I'm considering going from the 1.9 Tdi to the 1.4 TFSI Polo GTi, these new smaller engines seem very good, although a few early problems I have heard. Going from 55mpg on a run to about 40mpg could give me a good kick, well worth it though!