S3 or modded Edition 30

[h4rdy]

Personally I have had 4WD, Subaru, and I found it too easy to drive quickly.

'That sounds silly' you say, but I prefer a bit of a challenge, a bit of excitement.

The Subaru didn't even have traction so god knows what a VAG 4WD is like

Also the VAG 4WD, I believe, isn't even a 'real' 4WD is it? The majority of torque is through the front until it senses slip after a 7th of a revolution? I am preparing to be corrected on that.

All my opinion of course but I made the right choice for me with the ED30.

 

[Hurdy]

Also the VAG 4WD, I believe, isn't even a 'real' 4WD is it? The majority of torque is through the front until it senses slip after a 7th of a revolution? I am preparing to be corrected on that.

You are right....unless you fit a Haldex controller

[Poverty]

ED30 more fun to drive in the summer. Frustrating in the wet. S3 not as much fun to drive in the summer (too easy, less involving) but actually a hoot when its cold n wet and you can launch it even when its pissing down and it just grips and goes.

S3 with a sorted chassis turns it into a go kart though and is fun all year round then.

[Hedge]

Also the VAG 4WD, I believe, isn't even a 'real' 4WD is it? The majority of torque is through the front until it senses slip after a 7th of a revolution? I am preparing to be corrected on that.

You are right....unless you fit a Haldex controller

I thought your .:R was a Gen 4 Haldex whereas the S3 is/was a Gen 2 or 3. I thought the Gen 4 was more predictive in it's torque redistribution.

[Kregiel]

How does R compare to S3 in terms of driver's feedback and involvement? One of biggest downside of s3 was kinda of drivers lack of involvement

Ed30 for me but if R better than S3 in that respect than maybe...

Paul

[gazbutS3]

I've had/have both. Had a stage 2+ ED30 with ARB's/coilovers etc and it was a fantastic car but traction was an issue. The ED30 met a premature end, so I decided it would be an S3 to replace it, I will be the first to admit although a lovely car a standard S3 is nothing to write home about. But it doesn't take much to turn it into a real handy tool, I've had mine for 4 years now and have gradually modded it, now stage 2+,ARB's, coilovers etc etc and in the real world it is a fantastic road car and can more than hold its own on the track 

both are great cars 

[Black9]

Thanks for all the input and advice. But it's gonna be the edition 30 all going well:)
Time for my KO3 GTI to go now, sad times :(

[Hurdy]

Also the VAG 4WD, I believe, isn't even a 'real' 4WD is it? The majority of torque is through the front until it senses slip after a 7th of a revolution? I am preparing to be corrected on that.

You are right....unless you fit a Haldex controller

I thought your .:R was a Gen 4 Haldex whereas the S3 is/was a Gen 2 or 3. I thought the Gen 4 was more predictive in it's torque redistribution.

Yes, you're correct Ian the R feels livelier to start with.

[Jussa]

Also the VAG 4WD, I believe, isn't even a 'real' 4WD is it? The majority of torque is through the front until it senses slip after a 7th of a revolution? I am preparing to be corrected on that.

You are right....unless you fit a Haldex controller

I thought your .:R was a Gen 4 Haldex whereas the S3 is/was a Gen 2 or 3. I thought the Gen 4 was more predictive in it's torque redistribution.

Yes, you're correct Ian the R feels livelier to start with.

All this negativity about the S3 

I think mine has the Gen 4 Haldex(being 2010) I also thought this Gen distributed 60% to the rear and 40% to the front, and would compensate accordingly for any traction loss? 

[JMP]

Also the VAG 4WD, I believe, isn't even a 'real' 4WD is it? The majority of torque is through the front until it senses slip after a 7th of a revolution? I am preparing to be corrected on that.

You are right....unless you fit a Haldex controller

I thought your .:R was a Gen 4 Haldex whereas the S3 is/was a Gen 2 or 3. I thought the Gen 4 was more predictive in it's torque redistribution.

Yes, you're correct Ian the R feels livelier to start with.

At some point, VAG has introduced a feature into the Haldex that clutches will bite always when throttle is planted 100%, so it will not wait for slippage during launch. I cannot remember when this happened, but I think R has it.

[gazbutS3]

Also the VAG 4WD, I believe, isn't even a 'real' 4WD is it? The majority of torque is through the front until it senses slip after a 7th of a revolution? I am preparing to be corrected on that.

You are right....unless you fit a Haldex controller

I thought your .:R was a Gen 4 Haldex whereas the S3 is/was a Gen 2 or 3. I thought the Gen 4 was more predictive in it's torque redistribution.

Yes, you're correct Ian the R feels livelier to start with.

All this negativity about the S3 

I think mine has the Gen 4 Haldex(being 2010) I also thought this Gen distributed 60% to the rear and 40% to the front, and would compensate accordingly for any traction loss? 

facelift are gen 4

[Jussa]

Gaz 

U you coming down to the GTi Festival?

[h4rdy]

Also the VAG 4WD, I believe, isn't even a 'real' 4WD is it? The majority of torque is through the front until it senses slip after a 7th of a revolution? I am preparing to be corrected on that.

You are right....unless you fit a Haldex controller

I thought your .:R was a Gen 4 Haldex whereas the S3 is/was a Gen 2 or 3. I thought the Gen 4 was more predictive in it's torque redistribution.

Yes, you're correct Ian the R feels livelier to start with.

All this negativity about the S3 

I think mine has the Gen 4 Haldex(being 2010) I also thought this Gen distributed 60% to the rear and 40% to the front, and would compensate accordingly for any traction loss? 

Nah not really the S3's are lovely just prefer a bit of torque steer

Actually my ED30 is pretty sorted so don't really get much at 2+!

My only issue with Audi's at the moment is that you can't tell a 1.4 front end from a RS3!

Maybe a bit of a exaggeration but you know what I mean

I just like VW's and I probably would have an 'R' over a ED30.

[Shorty]

Edition 30 with DSG for sure, I'd only have an S3 if it was DSG, it makes the car so much better.

I know people say about traction etc but with some good tyres they put the power down quite well, yeah I know it's never going to do mental 0-60's etc but I think and stage 2+ spec ED30 with DSG is a exciting car to drive and can be a handful around the lanes!

As some people say, an S3 can be a bit too easy and planted some times.

[Tamiyoman]

Personal choice ain't it. I bought the ed30 because I love the look of it.... Looks "just like (any old) a golf)".

I could have easy got an s3 for the same money but I didn't and dot regret it.

X2

Same