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Offline jonnyc

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Re: revo stage 2+
« Reply #45 on: June 18, 2009, 10:57:35 am »
I did some logs on mine (running standard ic plus forge twintercooler) last time I was at Revo..

The ambient was 26 degrees and after a LONG pull the most we saw was 33 degrees inlet temps, quickly recovering back to 30-31 degrees.. Dont think there is anything wrong with that?

Forge cooler is ace, and more than enough for the K04 and probably a big turbo too..

The way it come across to me is that APR bash other companies products, scare monger people in to buying APR, and its pretty well known that APR give out products to big players on the forums to win them over AND employ people who's only job seems to be to go on forums and do the above.. Its all there written in the posts, and pretty blatant if you ask me..

I dont like the way APR go about things, and for that reason would never buy anything from them..

(you never know, now I have slagged them off a bit I may get a fuel pump and intercooler arriving through my door, I know for a fact that has happened to a few guys in the states)

Also.. Full APR tuned K04 car, APR map, APR Fuel pump, APR Intercooler, 'approved' intake, APR Turbo back exhaust etc etc etc made 44bhp and 48ft/lbs torque less than my car on the same rollers, same day (about 10mins apart) compared to my Revo and Forge tuned car..

Wander how they would explain that one..  :wink:
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Re: revo stage 2+
« Reply #46 on: June 18, 2009, 11:06:15 am »
Wow, very very interesting! Thanks for shedding some light into the debate!  :smiley: :smiley:
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Re: revo stage 2+
« Reply #47 on: June 18, 2009, 11:15:29 am »
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So if we put the APR IC aside, we are left with stock cooler plus Forge Twintercooler vs S3 cooler on its own as a replacement.

I guess that the advantage of the stock+twinter is that the stock is known to be pretty efficient and the twinter is directly right upfront as a kinda boost - Does that make sense? That's what you've got isn't it, Jonny?
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Re: revo stage 2+
« Reply #48 on: June 18, 2009, 11:19:22 am »
Quote from: RedRobin on June 18, 2009, 11:15:29 am
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So if we put the APR IC aside, we are left with stock cooler plus Forge Twintercooler vs S3 cooler on its own as a replacement.

I guess that the advantage of the stock+twinter is that the stock is known to be pretty efficient and the twinter is directly right upfront as a kinda boost - Does that make sense? That's what you've got isn't it, Jonny?

Stock plus Twintercooler is 'better' than the S3 cooler, its been proven with numbers.. The reason you would go for the S3 over the Twintercooler is for price only IMO

As for S3 plus Twintecooler im not sure, dont think many have numbers for that, or have even tried it.. Yet
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Re: revo stage 2+
« Reply #49 on: June 18, 2009, 11:32:02 am »
^^^^
Thanks, Jonny - That's helped my decision if I ever get an IC.

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Re: revo stage 2+
« Reply #50 on: June 20, 2009, 08:55:41 am »
Quote from: MAT ED30 on June 18, 2009, 10:55:33 am
have u ever seen the s3 ic and apr ic side by side its like apr just stamped there name on the s3 cooler :laugh:

sound like the billyboat exhaust thingy then!! http://www.golfmkv.com/forums/showthread.php?t=90758
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Re: revo stage 2+
« Reply #51 on: June 20, 2009, 11:18:28 am »
Quote from: MAT ED30 on June 18, 2009, 10:55:33 am
have u ever seen the s3 ic and apr ic side by side its like apr just stamped there name on the s3 cooler :laugh:

Intercooler   widths anybody got sizes for pro alloy or THS
GTI - 32mm
S3 - 40mm
APR - 57mm

Piping diameter
GTI - 53mm
S3 - 48mm
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Re: revo stage 2+
« Reply #52 on: June 20, 2009, 11:24:42 am »
Quote from: jonnyc on June 18, 2009, 10:57:35 am
Also.. Full APR tuned K04 car, APR map, APR Fuel pump, APR Intercooler, 'approved' intake, APR Turbo back exhaust etc etc etc made 44bhp and 48ft/lbs torque less than my car on the same rollers, same day (about 10mins apart) compared to my Revo and Forge tuned car..

Wander how they would explain that one..  :wink:

Whose car is that you're referring to? Is it a Seat Leon Cupra by any chance??
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Re: revo stage 2+
« Reply #53 on: June 20, 2009, 11:34:37 am »
Is it not the Ottenger IC that is just the Audi S3 rebadged?
I was thinking of upgrading to the Forge twintercooler to enhance my S3 IC.
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Re: revo stage 2+
« Reply #54 on: June 20, 2009, 12:01:24 pm »
Quote from: keith on June 20, 2009, 11:34:37 am
Is it not the Ottenger IC that is just the Audi S3 rebadged?


It is...
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Re: revo stage 2+
« Reply #55 on: June 20, 2009, 12:37:42 pm »
Quote from: bacillus on June 20, 2009, 12:01:24 pm
Quote from: keith on June 20, 2009, 11:34:37 am
Is it not the Ottenger IC that is just the Audi S3 rebadged?


It is...

oops my bad lol i forgot it was that one not the apr  :rolleye:
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Re: revo stage 2+
« Reply #56 on: June 21, 2009, 03:09:48 pm »
Quote from: chungster on June 20, 2009, 11:24:42 am
Quote from: jonnyc on June 18, 2009, 10:57:35 am
Also.. Full APR tuned K04 car, APR map, APR Fuel pump, APR Intercooler, 'approved' intake, APR Turbo back exhaust etc etc etc made 44bhp and 48ft/lbs torque less than my car on the same rollers, same day (about 10mins apart) compared to my Revo and Forge tuned car..

Wander how they would explain that one..  :wink:

Whose car is that you're referring to? Is it a Seat Leon Cupra by any chance??
Sounds like Marks..  :wink:
Jonny, what did yours get when on the rollers in the end?
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Re: revo stage 2+
« Reply #57 on: June 21, 2009, 04:25:53 pm »
Quote from: Vtec Abuser on June 21, 2009, 03:09:48 pm
Quote from: chungster on June 20, 2009, 11:24:42 am
Quote from: jonnyc on June 18, 2009, 10:57:35 am
Also.. Full APR tuned K04 car, APR map, APR Fuel pump, APR Intercooler, 'approved' intake, APR Turbo back exhaust etc etc etc made 44bhp and 48ft/lbs torque less than my car on the same rollers, same day (about 10mins apart) compared to my Revo and Forge tuned car..

Wander how they would explain that one..  :wink:

Whose car is that you're referring to? Is it a Seat Leon Cupra by any chance??
Sounds like Marks..  :wink:
Jonny, what did yours get when on the rollers in the end?



jonnyc - 351bhp
ZBOYD - 307.3bhp

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Re: revo stage 2+
« Reply #58 on: June 21, 2009, 04:52:34 pm »
351bhp on a DD roller is damn impressive! it might have read 400bhp on the SC rollers in that case!

Surprised Mark's Leon was that low. I'm sure he's had over 350bhp on Awesome's own rollers before.   
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Re: revo stage 2+
« Reply #59 on: June 21, 2009, 05:13:37 pm »
There was some strange results



 269bhp  standard
 290.5bhp  apr  stage 2+
 335.2bhp   giac with full stage 2+ mods and hammer map  this ones pulled 363 else were not sure on what rollers

I know zboyd  has had a 335 at awesome.
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