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Re: APR/Race Developments Stage 4 TTRS Build
« Reply #135 on: January 08, 2014, 11:40:17 pm »
UPDATE:

Ive had the car back for a while now, but been too busy enjoying it in all my spare time. Its 97 percent complete I have been busy running in the engine motorsport style and generally getting used to it. It requires one last visit for the VWR air intake to be fitted and a general final nut and bolts check, including the loading of the final map.

We did have some valvetrain issues along the way, so ive gone back to stock audi valves and springs. Therefore technically APR consider the car to be stage 3 plus and not full blown stage 4. Valvetrain is something I might revist in the future once I have the time and money to get more development work done.

So the car hasnt been dynoed, but we know roughly what power the car is making from the data logs. Its a solid 650hp 650lbft car for sure, some reckon it could even be knocking on the door of 700hp. Whatever it is, its fast, and trying to put the power down when its cold and wet is a hard task. Ive had the car spinning its wheels in 4th, and even with ESP fully on ive had a one or two fishtail occasions where the car tries to throw you off the road just going WOT in a straight line. Needless to say I keep ESP fully on in these conditions. I tried it in ESP sport once, where the TC isnt as nannying, and even a slight application of the throttle in the boost range would mean sideway action.

So before at stage 2, where you would jump in the car in pretty much any weather condition and turn the ESP into sport or OFF was possible, now it no longer is if you want to do WOT applications.

So onto how it drives. Around town, just cruising, its pretty much like OEM, if we disregard the all round stiffer engine mounts I opted for and the SMF twin plate clutch as they are obviously noisier than OEM. I think most stage 3 customers only fit the lower gearbox mount, but I wanted the whole works.

The car feels more solid and communicative because of the mounts, blip the throttle and the revs fly up in the blink of an eye due to the lighter flywheel, and you get a racecar-ish "thrum" into the cabin.

The clutch took me a day or two to get used to, but it appears the more mileage I put on the car, the more OEM it gets. You do notice the weight of the race clutch if you keep it dipped in traffic, so you soon stop doing that and make use of neutral and the handbrake instead.

MPG is in the low 40's now on the motorway at a steady 70mph. One WOT scenario will drag the average right down though. It drinks when you put your foot down. Around town Id say its around the same as with a stock turbo.

Now how does it drive like in anger? Well it kicks, really really kicks hard. The car is responsive and the spool is quick, boost doesnt really build gradually like most big turbo cars ive experienced, it well just kicks in, and the ass end squats throwing you into the back of the seat. The throw into the seat back action is so intense, that once you come off boost you and your passenger will notice that the seatbelt has tightned around your body. People who are generally known to be good passengers, turn into not so good passengers, myself included.

The car pulls hard from 3k rpm all the way to the limiter, its relentless and it doesnt die off. Spool on my motor comes in like 700rpm earlier than that of stage 3 cars without the engine work. This is down to the work of racedevelopments, and I'll post more about that at another time in greater detail.

So all in all, very happy, the car has exceeded expectations, and the fact that its quicker in the 100-200km/h dash than a aventador, macca f1, pagani zonda F (with jonnyc behind the wheel) well thats just a bonus.

I'll carry on posting, about what the car is like to live with day to day, as people never really post about that side of things, so maybe it will be of interest to some people, who have flirted with the idea of a BT but have been unsure for whatever reason to see how others are getting on.

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« Reply #136 on: January 08, 2014, 11:53:48 pm »
Can't wait to finally see it running in the flesh

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Re: APR/Race Developments Stage 4 TTRS Build
« Reply #137 on: January 09, 2014, 04:37:19 am »
Good write-up Pov and glad to see you are finally enjoying the car. :happy2:

Still need that shotgun ride. :driver:
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« Reply #138 on: January 09, 2014, 09:09:25 pm »
Holy crap matey, really glad your finally out enjoying the beast! Sounds totally mind blowing, very very jealous! :happy2:


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Re: APR/Race Developments Stage 4 TTRS Build
« Reply #139 on: February 11, 2014, 02:12:41 pm »
Hopefully I will have the car back with me next week sometime after the latest round of upgrades. The car should be getting dyno'd also so should have some final figures along with its new lower look (performance low, not stance low).

Should be good fun being able to push the car fully now that the run in process has been completed and the chassis has been upgraded to match.

All I will have left to do then is upgrade the brake setup, haldex controller, and a wavetrac diff and technically the car would be "finished" but I already have some extra thoughts in the back of my head, but first things first and thats getting the car ready to do alot of driving in this summer.

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Re: APR/Race Developments Stage 4 TTRS Build
« Reply #140 on: February 11, 2014, 04:03:09 pm »
I totally missed this build before...would love to see some finished pics!

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Re: APR/Race Developments Stage 4 TTRS Build
« Reply #141 on: February 11, 2014, 05:36:52 pm »
 :happy2:

In for performance stats and pics Pov :party:
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Re: APR/Race Developments Stage 4 TTRS Build
« Reply #142 on: February 11, 2014, 06:38:55 pm »
Gonna have to borrow a v-box and a gopro  :driver:

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Re: APR/Race Developments Stage 4 TTRS Build
« Reply #143 on: February 11, 2014, 06:58:01 pm »
Looking forward to the figures :party:.

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Re: APR/Race Developments Stage 4 TTRS Build
« Reply #144 on: February 11, 2014, 07:53:13 pm »
Epic build this, looking forward to follow the progres

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Re: APR/Race Developments Stage 4 TTRS Build
« Reply #145 on: February 12, 2014, 12:36:42 pm »
Bilsteins!


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Re: APR/Race Developments Stage 4 TTRS Build
« Reply #146 on: March 09, 2014, 09:33:46 pm »
Any vids of this the way it's running now? I want it :drool:

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Re: APR/Race Developments Stage 4 TTRS Build
« Reply #147 on: March 10, 2014, 09:47:47 am »
Bought a gopro just need to make some vids now and write another update. Just not had the time been too occupied driving the car.

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Re: APR/Race Developments Stage 4 TTRS Build
« Reply #148 on: March 10, 2014, 11:05:27 am »
Don't blame ya mate. Looking forward to the vids  :happy2:

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Re: APR/Race Developments Stage 4 TTRS Build
« Reply #149 on: March 19, 2014, 04:21:32 pm »
What's white, has 4 rings, 5 cylinders, and beats gallardo lp570-4 performante for fun?

Oh that would be my TTRS!  :driver:

600hp GTR's, don't bother either   :laugh:

Now just need to pull another 50kgs of weight out of the car now.