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Re: APR/Race Developments Stage 4 TTRS Build
« Reply #120 on: May 09, 2013, 10:48:11 pm »
So, erm, the clutch has finally arrived.

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Re: APR/Race Developments Stage 4 TTRS Build
« Reply #121 on: May 10, 2013, 09:01:54 am »
Helix yes?
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Re: APR/Race Developments Stage 4 TTRS Build
« Reply #122 on: May 10, 2013, 09:27:48 am »
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Re: APR/Race Developments Stage 4 TTRS Build
« Reply #123 on: May 12, 2013, 10:14:29 pm »

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Re: APR/Race Developments Stage 4 TTRS Build
« Reply #124 on: May 13, 2013, 08:41:46 pm »
Very nice  :congrats:

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Re: APR/Race Developments Stage 4 TTRS Build
« Reply #125 on: August 03, 2013, 02:49:34 pm »
UPDATE:

Decided on some hardware changes.

The turbokit got removed and sent off for a special coating.

APR released their own intercooler which has the biggest frontal area off all TTRS intercoolers so I have ordered one of those aswell.

And finally, a carbon carbon clutch is being developed so Im going to upgrade to that when its released also.

Will the car be ready for 30-130 in 7 days time, I dont know :(  :sad1:


Specs of the APR intercooler:

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The APR Intercooler System dramatically lowers charge air temperature and resists heat soak far better the TT RS’s factory intercooler system. Through a massively increased frontal surface area, superior intercooler core design and smooth, cast end tanks, APR’s engineers were able to create an intercooler capable of supporting power levels well beyond that of the factory unit. Expect increased horsepower and torque and dramatically prolonged performance.

  • Dramatically lowers intake air temperature
  • Increases horesepower and torque while prolonging performance
  • APR intercooler core dimensions: 3.00" x 12.70" x 22.25"
  • OEM intercooler core dimensions 3.19" x 6.38x" x 21.75"
  • 104% more frontal area and 92% larger core compared to stock
  • Pressure tested for leak proof operation
  • Smooth cast alumnium end tanks
  • CNC machined hose connection points
  • Integrated light weight support brace, horn and sensor brackets
  • Stealthy black coating does not alter thermal effectiveness
  • Full install directions and APR's world-renowned customer support
  • Lifetime warranty

Intercooler Ambient Air Fins



Each unit uses a high quality, bar and plate core with staggered and louvered fins. The Intercooler’s exceptionally tall design and fin structure exposes the core to a greater volume of airflow than possible with the factory or similar aftermarket short and thick core designs. With more of the intercooler directly exposed to the elements, cooling effectiveness dramatically increases.

Intercooler Charge Air Fins



Internally, the APR Intercooler System features a staggered and louvered fin design with a core density chosen as a balance between cooling effectiveness and pressure drop. Due to the core’s massive volume, the balance was easily adjusted to favor minimal pressure drop while still providing superior effectiveness compared stock and similar to stock designs.

Intercooler Rear with Support Brace installed



The intercooler’s maximum size and frontal area is directly related to packaging constraints found at the front end of the vehicle. Intercooler units located in the factory location are design limited resulting in increased volume primarily through expanding the depth of the system. Unfortunately increasing depth only slightly increases the intercoolers effectiveness compared to increased frontal surface area. APR’s Intercooler System includes a reengineered front-end support brace constructed from billet aluminum to maximize packaging constraints. The low profile support brace resides near the factory location and no longer blocks the intercooler from front-end airflow. The bar’s inner design features a weight saving grid, which also aids in airflow through the core.



The intercooler core and brace are both black to remain stealthy behind the TT RS’s massive grille. The black chip and corrosion resistant coating does not alter the thermal effectiveness of the intercooler core. During testing APR’s Engineers were unable to measure a difference in temperature between the coated and non-coated system during both dyno and road tests. This was further backed up with matching dyno performance between coated and uncoated systems equaling each other.



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Testing Data - Dyno

The Test below demonstrates the intercoolers ability to cool intake air temperature even under brutal conditions. Six back-to-back pulls were preformed with absolutely no cool down between runs. The APR Intercooler’s first run was conducted in slightly worse conditions than the stock intercooler, but it was able to keep the intake air temperature at redline lower than stock even after the sixth back to back pull! The dramatic rise in temperature from the stock intercooler cost the TT RS valuable horsepower on the dyno and averaged over 25 HP less than the APR unit across the six runs.







Testing Data - Street

APR’s Engineers set out to further prove each Intercooler’s effectiveness by testing in real world conditions on the street. Four back-to-back 20-130 mph pulls were conducted with both the factory and APR intercooler unit while various data points were collected with APR’s ECU Explorer data logging suite. While APR’s Engineers made every effort to keep starting temps identical between the two intercoolers, unfortunately conditions worsened while testing the APR unit as ambient temperature increased.

The rise in temperature was still no match for the APR intercooler unit. Pull after pull, the intercooler was able to cool charge air temperature below the actual starting temperature! The stock intercooler unfortunately experienced a rapid temperature increase and on average ran 14C higher than the starting temperature. The intake air temperature results collected on the street mimicked that of the data collected on the dyno further backing the power associated with each unit.

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Re: APR/Race Developments Stage 4 TTRS Build
« Reply #126 on: August 03, 2013, 03:58:13 pm »
ive having to cancel my 30-130 run been unwell for a few weeks now so seeking medical attention so not really driving a great deal at the moment  :confused:

Hope its ready for next weekend dude
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Re: APR/Race Developments Stage 4 TTRS Build
« Reply #127 on: August 03, 2013, 04:04:29 pm »
been a while now Jase. Saving grace is that there shouldn't be any hard/soft ware issues when it's in service. I think APR are pretty thorough like that.

10/10 for patience though mate.

If you've got any budget left for stoppers and you're on 19s drop me a PM when you're nearer ready ....got some stuff in the pipeline that may appeal.

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Re: APR/Race Developments Stage 4 TTRS Build
« Reply #128 on: August 03, 2013, 05:34:53 pm »
been a while now Jase. Saving grace is that there shouldn't be any hard/soft ware issues when it's in service. I think APR are pretty thorough like that.

10/10 for patience though mate.

If you've got any budget left for stoppers and you're on 19s drop me a PM when you're nearer ready ....got some stuff in the pipeline that may appeal.

Will do daveb, deffo gonna need to upgrade from those OEM discs now, its been on my to do list for a while now.

ive having to cancel my 30-130 run been unwell for a few weeks now so seeking medical attention so not really driving a great deal at the moment  :confused:

Hope its ready for next weekend dude

Sorry to hear that Andrew hopefully nothing too serious!

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Re: APR/Race Developments Stage 4 TTRS Build
« Reply #129 on: August 23, 2013, 07:19:02 pm »
So the car is being built and I've been told helix actually sent a 2.0tsi clutch instead of the TTRS one. Still cost me like 1800 pounds though. Hopefully the issue can be rectified quickly and it won't hold the car up. The trials and tribulations of big builds  :sad1:

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Re: APR/Race Developments Stage 4 TTRS Build
« Reply #130 on: August 23, 2013, 10:00:15 pm »
Are they only working on this car as and when you have the money for the next stage of the build Pov?. this has to be the longest wait i have ever seen for a modern car. Hasnt it been over two years since it went pop!.  :chicken:

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Re: APR/Race Developments Stage 4 TTRS Build
« Reply #131 on: August 23, 2013, 10:11:25 pm »
It's taken so long because APR are perfectionist and aren't releasing the kit till they are 100% happy, the kit itself has gone through a few revisions and design changes which has held the whole process up. Their marketing department are just finalising things now for release so I finally can get it fitted on the car.

Currently mine, jonnyc's and 2 others are getting the final version fitted as we speak. Then there's plans to hit brunters for numbers.

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Re: APR/Race Developments Stage 4 TTRS Build
« Reply #132 on: August 23, 2013, 10:18:57 pm »
So, erm, the clutch has finally arrived.

So the car is being built and I've been told helix actually sent a 2.0tsi clutch instead of the TTRS one. Still cost me like 1800 pounds though. Hopefully the issue can be rectified quickly and it won't hold the car up. The trials and tribulations of big builds  :sad1:


Is this the clutch that APR have had since May :surprised:

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Re: APR/Race Developments Stage 4 TTRS Build
« Reply #133 on: August 23, 2013, 10:25:10 pm »
So, erm, the clutch has finally arrived.

So the car is being built and I've been told helix actually sent a 2.0tsi clutch instead of the TTRS one. Still cost me like 1800 pounds though. Hopefully the issue can be rectified quickly and it won't hold the car up. The trials and tribulations of big builds  :sad1:

Is this the clutch that APR have had since May :surprised:

Yeah, I suppose they never had a reason to open the box until now, or perhaps it wasn't obvious it was the wrong clutch till it was time to fit it.

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Re: APR/Race Developments Stage 4 TTRS Build
« Reply #134 on: August 31, 2013, 08:04:14 pm »
Lovely car Poverty, one hell of a build, I can't wait to see the results when it running.