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Re: What is tiv mapping
« Reply #15 on: November 23, 2012, 10:48:00 pm »
I think mines had it done (although Nick didn't answer my post above  :grin:). He's changed the part of the map that affects the way the car drives at low RPM, like when driving at low speeds in 1st gear, it's less jerky. Maybe a feature of TIV mapping??

I havent been able to dyno properly yet as my clutch is slipping badly  :sad1:

No that was lowering the LDR maps to match your driving style.   :wink:
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Re: What is tiv mapping
« Reply #16 on: November 24, 2012, 11:51:08 am »
Nick, hi again, can I assume that as the last time I was at yrs was September for my custom remap, that I did NOT get this tiv update code??
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Re: What is tiv mapping
« Reply #17 on: November 24, 2012, 04:45:34 pm »
I think mines had it done (although Nick didn't answer my post above  :grin:). He's changed the part of the map that affects the way the car drives at low RPM, like when driving at low speeds in 1st gear, it's less jerky. Maybe a feature of TIV mapping??

I havent been able to dyno properly yet as my clutch is slipping badly  :sad1:

No that was lowering the LDR maps to match your driving style.   :wink:

Gotcha   :happy2:

You can do the upgrade when I get my clutch sorted Nick  :notworthy:
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Re: What is tiv mapping
« Reply #18 on: November 27, 2012, 08:33:01 pm »
Nick, hi again, can I assume that as the last time I was at yrs was September for my custom remap, that I did NOT get this tiv update code??
Andrew

You not running TIV code..yet   lol
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Re: What is tiv mapping
« Reply #19 on: November 27, 2012, 11:58:03 pm »
As I thought, lol! In yr humble, yet expert opinion Nick, is it worth having this tweak??
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Re: What is tiv mapping
« Reply #20 on: January 03, 2013, 01:25:52 pm »
Hi Folks, sorry to resurrect this thread but have any GTi owners had this Tiv added to their remap via R Tech yet? If so, any noticeable benefits as such?

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Re: What is tiv mapping
« Reply #21 on: January 15, 2013, 05:01:41 pm »
The reason for TIV

The anti-jerk function detects oscillations of the power train and damps them out by applying opposing-phase torque interventions. The torque intervention is converted into an ignition angle offset by the torque interface.


In order to damp the power train oscillation efficiently, the torque intervention should counteract engine speed oscillations. Thereby the same effect is achieved as if the attenuation coefficient of the drive shaft is increased.


You can have more power/ Performance but still have exact same peak bhp.  Peak bhp is only a reading at 1rpm point to show where the max hp point is.
  
Performance tuning is about getting as much power from the whole power band.  The more average bhp the quicker the car.

I would be happy having a car with 230bhp and 200bhp average over a car with 250bhp and 180bhp average.

2hp peak is nothing, it could be a cooler day, better fuel.

The TIV and TIV+ mapping is allowing us to unlock power from the whole of the torque curve its not aimed to get peak numbers.   The TIV mapping also transforms the car on part throttle light load driving.   At the moment we are the only company to offer this full TIV reduction mapping for ME9 - MED9 and ME7.5 ecus.  It wont be long before everyone catches up again..lol

Mk5 stock vs stage1 custom with TIV+



1.8T K04 with stage2 and high flow manifold.  This graph shows the same map back to back, the smoother map has just the TIV reduction added, so its running the exact same boost, fuel and timing requests. More power and EGTs where 120deg lower.
This both runs have a low filter in the dyno settings so show whats going on during the run.  Most rolling roads will have high filters and the lower run with interventions would look smooth bust still lower power. having a low filter allows us to see where the opposing-phase torque interventions happen.  But when we allow the timing with no interventions the graph is smooth and a lot stronger

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Re: What is tiv mapping
« Reply #22 on: January 15, 2013, 06:47:33 pm »
Great results, Nick  :congrats:

Have you done a 2.0TFSI k04 yet?

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Re: What is tiv mapping
« Reply #23 on: January 16, 2013, 01:35:10 pm »
Great results, Nick  :congrats:

Have you done a 2.0TFSI k04 yet?

James K04 Tfsi 450lbft 380bhp (limited by low pressure fuel pump) is running my development TiV+ map.  But he did request as much average power from the K04 we could get the reason peak bhp is across most of the graph.  I got a few basic stage2 and stage2+ k04 car booked in soon which I will be adding the TiV to.   Stage1 K04 with TiV are seeing 20-26lbft more across the torque band and peak numbers 297-310bhp



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Re: What is tiv mapping
« Reply #24 on: January 17, 2013, 12:55:41 am »
Great results, Nick  :congrats:

Have you done a 2.0TFSI k04 yet?

James K04 Tfsi 450lbft 380bhp (limited by low pressure fuel pump) is running my development TiV+ map.  But he did request as much average power from the K04 we could get the reason peak bhp is across most of the graph.  I got a few basic stage2 and stage2+ k04 car booked in soon which I will be adding the TiV to.   Stage1 K04 with TiV are seeing 20-26lbft more across the torque band and peak numbers 297-310bhp



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Re: What is tiv mapping
« Reply #25 on: January 17, 2013, 01:03:01 am »
Great results, Nick  :congrats:

Have you done a 2.0TFSI k04 yet?

James K04 Tfsi 450lbft 380bhp (limited by low pressure fuel pump) is running my development TiV+ map.  But he did request as much average power from the K04 we could get the reason peak bhp is across most of the graph.  I got a few basic stage2 and stage2+ k04 car booked in soon which I will be adding the TiV to.   Stage1 K04 with TiV are seeing 20-26lbft more across the torque band and peak numbers 297-310bhp



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Re: What is tiv mapping
« Reply #26 on: January 17, 2013, 08:00:24 am »
@vag12 - this is with WMI and a K04 turbo. Basically a stg 2+ k04 with WMI
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Re: What is tiv mapping
« Reply #27 on: March 08, 2013, 11:54:37 am »
Looking foward to seeing what your TiV mapping will do to my Superchips stage 2 car Nick.

Should be very interesting and wait to hear from you to arrange time/date  :happy2:

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Re: What is tiv mapping
« Reply #28 on: March 08, 2013, 11:57:11 am »
Looking foward to seeing what your TiV mapping will do to my Superchips stage 2 car Nick.

Should be very interesting and wait to hear from you to arrange time/date  :happy2:

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Re: What is tiv mapping
« Reply #29 on: March 08, 2013, 01:56:08 pm »
Looking foward to seeing what your TiV mapping will do to my Superchips stage 2 car Nick.
Should be very interesting and wait to hear from you to arrange time/date  :happy2:

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