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HELP, Touran major issues
« on: December 05, 2012, 10:18:27 am »
First off Hello everyone, its been a very long time  :happy2: hope everyone is well

Now ive got a major headache with a 53 plate touran, below is everything i know inc a scan, here goes


Car was recovered into a local garage with non start issues the day after alot of heavy rain
They didnt have a clue and bought it to use (VW indy)
first off i done a complete scan and found faults in almost every controller, most of them are no comms codes
the touran wouldnt start at all
Fuse F7 was blown so replaced that and it blkow as soon as the ign was switched on, the cause of this is the clutch unit on the bulk head has a melted terminal
Anyway it still wouldnt start but now when the ign is turned off the dash stays lit up with the key in your hand :confused:
If i disconnect the battery for a couple of minutes and reconnect the engine will start, the dash has a fit saying no oil pressure and the ABS,ESP,P/Steering lights are all on, im now at the point im not sure where to go next and was hoping someone could suggest something, maybe a fresh outlook on it?

here is the scan

Wednesday,05,December,2012,09:56:13:01263
VCDS Version: Release 11.11.4
Data version: 20120807



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Chassis Type: 1K0
Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 16 17 18 19 25 42 44 46 52 56 62 72

VIN: WVGZZZ1TZ4W064840   Mileage: 327230km/203331miles

00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
01-Engine -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: Malfunction 0010
18-Aux. Heat -- Status: Malfunction 0010
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: Malfunction 0010
44-Steering Assist -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
46-Central Conv. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: Malfunction 0010
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: Malfunction 0010
 
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Address 01: Engine
Cannot be reached

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Address 03: ABS Brakes
Cannot be reached

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Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 1K0-820-047.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 820 047 CB
   Component: Climatic PQ35   050 0201 
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 66C30ADB51632228BB9

4 Faults Found:
00532 - Supply Voltage B+
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
00819 - High Pressure Sensor (G65)
            009 - Open or Short to Ground
01316 - ABS Control Module
            013 - Check DTC Memory
01314 - Engine Control Module
            013 - Check DTC Memory

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Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels: 3C0-937-049-23-M.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 937 049 F    HW: 1K0 937 049 F*
   Component: PQ35 BordnetzSG 1.0 0501 
   Revision: 12345678    Serial number: 00000000180914
   Coding: 00890F000004100000120C000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 326BA68BAD2B8E88E71

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1T0 955 119 B  Labels: 1TX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer WWS A-MPV   0201 
   Coding: 16711828
   Shop #: WSC 00000 

5 Faults Found:
02397 - Parking Light Right Rear (M2)
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
01064 - Terminal 58d; Interior Dimming
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
02396 - Parking Light Left Rear (M4)
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
01504 - Bulb for License-Plate Light (X)
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent
01314 - Engine Control Module
            004 - No Signal/Communication

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Address 15: Airbags
Cannot be reached

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Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 A    HW: 1K0 953 549 A
   Component: Lenksäulenmodul 012 0030 
   Coding: 0000042
   Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
   VCID: 306FAC83A327BC98915

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl
   Part No: 1T0 920 960 C
   Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT VDD 1714 
   Coding: 0003401
   Shop #: WSC 00999 444 64523
   VCID: 326BA68BAD2B8E88E71

4 Faults Found:
01309 - Power Steering Control Module (J500)
            004 - No Signal/Communication
01314 - Engine Control Module
            004 - No Signal/Communication
01316 - ABS Control Module
            004 - No Signal/Communication
01321 - Control Module for Airbags (J234)
            004 - No Signal/Communication

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Address 18: Aux. Heat        Labels: 1K0-815-071.clb
   Part No: 1K0 815 071 M
   Component: Zuheizer        020 1312 
   Revision:        A    Serial number: 09010046     
   Coding: 0000011
   Shop #: WSC 00425 210 83566
   VCID: 2F6DAFFFBE19A36088F

5 Faults Found:
02085 - Incorrect Control Module Installed
            000 -  -  - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:

01305 - Databus for Infotainment
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100100
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 3
                    Reset counter: 122
                    Mileage: 254371 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 16:12:20

00003 - Control Module
            014 - Defective - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100100
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 3
                    Reset counter: 122
                    Mileage: 254371 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 16:12:20

00664 - Fuel gauge
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100010
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 81
                    Reset counter: 71
                    Mileage: 523818 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 24:08:46

01321 - Control Module for Airbags (J234)
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 114
                    Reset counter: 32
                    Mileage: 458303 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 16:00:19


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Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels: 1K0-907-530-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 C    HW: 1K0 907 951
   Component: Gateway         H08 0080 
   Revision: 08          Serial number: 210010382219BC
   Coding: 3D3F1340078003
   Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
   VCID: 275D47DF96E9FB2040F

6 Faults Found:
01312 - Powertrain Data Bus
            014 - Defective - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101110
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 3
                    Reset counter: 72
                    Mileage: 327231 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 00:13:10

01314 - Engine Control Module
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 32
                    Mileage: 327231 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 02:55:15

01316 - ABS Control Module
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 32
                    Mileage: 327231 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 02:55:15

00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85)
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 32
                    Mileage: 327231 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 02:55:15

01321 - Control Module for Airbags (J234)
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 32
                    Mileage: 327231 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 02:55:15

01309 - Power Steering Control Module (J500)
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 32
                    Mileage: 327231 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 02:55:15


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Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No: 1T0 920 960 C
   Component: IMMO                1714 
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 326BA68BAD2B8E88E71

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels: 1K0-959-701-MIN1.lbl
   Part No: 1T0 959 701
   Component: Tuersteuergeraet 09 0111 
   Coding: 0000116
   Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
   VCID: F4E7E09397BF40B8B5D

2 Faults Found:
01811 - Supply Voltage for Door Controller; Drivers Side (J386)
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
00932 - Electric Window Motor; Drivers Side (V147)
            005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation

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Address 44: Steering Assist
Cannot be reached

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Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels: 1K0-959-433-MIN.clb
   Part No: 1K0 959 433 C
   Component:    KSG              0201 
   Coding: 01E802087F2D8505485F0610
   Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
   VCID: 306FAC83A327BC98915

   Part No: 1K0 951 605 A
   Component: LIN BACKUP HORN H01 1201

9 Faults Found:
00457 - Control Module for Network (J519)
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
01333 - Door Control Module; Rear Left (J388)
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
01334 - Door Control Module; Rear Right (J389)
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
00466 - Control Module for Steering Column Electronics (J527)
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
01299 - Diagnostic Interface for Data Bus (J533)
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
00668 - Supply Voltage Terminal 30 
            001 - Upper Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
00668 - Supply Voltage Terminal 30 
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
00849 - S-contact at Ignition/Starter Switch (D)
            008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
01312 - Powertrain Data Bus
            013 - Check DTC Memory

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels: 1K0-959-702-MIN1.lbl
   Part No: 1T0 959 702
   Component: Tuersteuergeraet 09 0111 
   Coding: 0000116
   Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
   VCID: F5E1DD979CC559B0823

1 Fault Found:
01812 - Supply Voltage for Door Controller; Pass. Side (J387)
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent

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Address 56: Radio        Labels: 1K0-035-1xx-56.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 035 186 D
   Component: Radio BNO           0218 
   Coding: 0040400
   Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
   VCID: 275D47DF96E9FB2040F

2 Faults Found:
00003 - Control Module
            014 - Defective
00856 - Radio Antenna
            011 - Open Circuit

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Address 62: Door, Rear Left        Labels: 1K0-959-703-GEN1.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 959 703 B
   Component: Tuersteuergeraet 05 0107 
   Coding: 0000048
   Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
   VCID: 2F6DAFFFBE19A36088F

1 Fault Found:
01813 - Supply Voltage for Door Controller; Rear Left (J388)
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent

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Address 72: Door, Rear Right        Labels: 1K0-959-704-GEN1.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 959 704 B
   Component: Tuersteuergeraet 05 0107 
   Coding: 0000048
   Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
   VCID: 306FAC83A327BC98915

1 Fault Found:
01814 - Supply Voltage for Door Controller; Rear Right (J389)
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent

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like i said the heavy rain may be a red herron, any help would be great  :happy2:

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Re: HELP, Touran major issues
« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2012, 10:35:46 am »
Glad to see your back posting Phil-that is one he'll of a list of faults !is it likely the ecu has chucked a wobbly
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Re: HELP, Touran major issues
« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2012, 10:47:27 am »
Thank you mate  :happy2:

I'm not sure I'm thinking maybe the can gateways has spat it's dummy out but I'm almost at the point of running out of ideas now :(
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Re: HELP, Touran major issues
« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2012, 11:23:30 am »
When my 55 plate TDI had symptoms of not starting and a scan showed arterial modules 'Cannot be reached' - it was a faulty engine ECU.

Fuses popping etc would point me to a damaged cable, but good luck finding that! I'd start in the CECM area.

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Re: HELP, Touran major issues
« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2012, 12:06:45 pm »
I'm thinking the can is fooked or as you said a damaged wire, I've got the gateway out I'm gonna have another look in a bit and see what's what, the bit that gets me is I would have thought the immo would have issues aswell but its code free
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Re: HELP, Touran major issues
« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2012, 12:38:00 pm »
I would try the gateway, make sure it is getting power. Also if you have an old one try that in there

Even with an ECU issue the gateway will work, I have a gateway wired up in my indoor set up

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Re: HELP, Touran major issues
« Reply #6 on: December 05, 2012, 01:58:18 pm »
Thank you Ed

I've just tried a good can gateway and still the same, code I have in the engine is 18056 power train data bus failure???
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Re: HELP, Touran major issues
« Reply #7 on: December 05, 2012, 06:01:36 pm »
sounds like a wiring issue then
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Re: HELP, Touran major issues
« Reply #8 on: December 05, 2012, 07:51:27 pm »
Quote from: Eddie-NL on December 05, 2012, 06:01:36 pm
sounds like a wiring issue then

Power or earth issue.

Check all relays too.
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Re: HELP, Touran major issues
« Reply #9 on: December 05, 2012, 08:32:43 pm »
Would check the for an earth fault using a jump lead from the battery earth on to the engine and other body chassis positions.
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Re: HELP, Touran major issues
« Reply #10 on: December 05, 2012, 11:04:26 pm »
Check the E-box (fuse box under the bonnet)  hasnt got water ingress in it !!!
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Re: HELP, Touran major issues
« Reply #11 on: December 06, 2012, 10:47:24 am »
The clue you give us of the errors comming after some serious rain leads me to think you might have the holes leading rain front the front window into the wheelarches is blocked and you then have had water in through the hole in the seperation plate between engine room and the passengerside of the car, and it has shortcircuited some boxes inside the car. My wife had water inside the car after these holes was clogged. So any water inside the car then??
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Re: HELP, Touran major issues
« Reply #12 on: December 06, 2012, 04:12:12 pm »
Quote from: danishmkvgti on December 06, 2012, 10:47:24 am
The clue you give us of the errors comming after some serious rain leads me to think you might have the holes leading rain front the front window into the wheelarches is blocked and you then have had water in through the hole in the seperation plate between engine room and the passengerside of the car, and it has shortcircuited some boxes inside the car. My wife had water inside the car after these holes was clogged. So any water inside the car then??
Had similar issues with ours and turned out to be a fused wire on the engine loom.
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