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BMW Corrosion Warranty - Not worth a carrot !!
« on: December 01, 2012, 07:18:07 pm »
I wonder if anyone on the forum has experienced difficulty in getting BMW to honour the anti corrosion warranty before.
My 330cd has corrosion bubbling through on the rear arches in exactly the same place on both sides   .

No problem I thought, take it to Haliwell Jones in Warrington - let them check it out, making sure that the paint depth is correct and has not previously been repaired and hey presto my paintwork should be restored to its former glory.

So part one goes perfectly to plan, technicians check everything to their satisfaction - taking pictures, measuring the paint depth, and confirming that indeed this is a likely candidate for a paint correction warranty claim   .

Just a small caveat however, we have to send the pictures off to Bracknell for the BMW Customer Service team to assess first before we can authorise the repair 

Not to worry, I expect that we will see you soon, I'm told   

Two weeks later I have not received any correspondence from Haliwell Jones, so I thought - they must be pretty busy, I'll give them a quick call.

Imagine my disappointment when told the paint has been damaged by corrosion of the metal, but by 'perforation caused by an 'external source'.

All this from a Customer service manager looking at low res images e-mailed to him.

I wrote a polite letter to BMW Customer Services (see below)

BMW Customers Services
Ellesfield Avenue
Bracknell
Berks
RG12 8TA


Dear Sirs,

BMW 330cd Registration number ********* Chassis number **************************

I am writing to you with following the recent corrosion assessment carried out by Halliwell Jones BMW of Warrington on the above vehicle.
Firstly I was extremely impressed by the level of service afforded to myself by technician Lee Ellis.

His appraisal of the perfectly symmetrical corrosion on the two rear arches, the subsequent measuring of the paint depth and logical conclusion given were entirely in keeping with my own thoughts regarding this unusual occurrence.

It is with disappointment therefore that I feel compelled to write this letter of complaint to your team at BMW Customer Services, following the news that you will not be honouring the corrosion warranty offered by BMW that my vehicle is covered by.

I am lead to believe by Halliwell Jones that in spite of the evidence supported by photographs, and the opinion of a trained technician, that your customer Services manager, Lloyd Truman has formulated the view that this perfectly symmetrical fault in the paintwork is the result of perforation from outside rather than from the metal.
Please forgive me for my tone but I am completely perplexed as to how you have reached this conclusion without a more thorough investigation, and the evidence that is presented.

I want to add that this is my third BMW e46 the first one of which I purchased new in 2000, and would suggest to you that I am a very loyal customer who is about to purchase an e92 M3.

I would therefore respectfully ask you to reconsider your initial verdict and honour the warranty that BMW give with the vehicle, before I have to take this matter further.

I have attached my phone number on the top of this letter and would therefore request a phone call to discuss the matter by return.

Yours faithfully

I received the following response....

Dear Mr ************

Thank you for your email dated November 27, 2012. I am sorry that you have felt the need to contact BMW UK regarding the Anti-corrosion Warranty of your BMW 330Cd. I appreciate that Mr Truman’s response was not what you expected. I tried to call you today on the mobile number provided, however, they was no response; therefore, please accept this letter as our response.

I can confirm that I have contacted Mr Simon Bellis, Service Advisor, Halliwell Jones Warrington, regarding the corrosion of your vehicle. Mr Bellis confirmed that your case was referred to the Technical Manager, Mr Llyod Truman, who provides support for our technicians at the BMW Approved Dealerships. As you are aware, from the evidence submitted to Mr Truman, he concluded that the paintwork had corroded from the outside due to the paint film being damaged by external influences at some point in the vehicle’s lifetime.

Although I acknowledge that you feel Mr Truman should have carried out a more detailed investigate, BMW UK Customer Service can only rely on the information supplied by the technicians and the Technical Manager. Mr Truman’s assessment would be final on this occasion; therefore, his decision still stands.

Thank you for contacting BMW UK. I trust that the above information clarifies our position and that we cannot provide any further assistance with this matter.

Yours sincerely

BMW UK
Katie Bailey
Customer Service Executive
Ellesfield Avenue
Bracknell RG12 8TA
Tel: +44 (0)870 5050 160
Fax: +44 (0)870 5050 205
Mailto: customer.service@bmw.co.uk

My reply....

Dear Katie,
Thank you for your reply.

Sadly, I am thoroughly dissatisfied with your response, and suggest again that you have failed to recognise that the damage is symmetrical and to the same degree on both sides of the car, clearly the corrosion is internal.

From my position, It is clear therefore that the anti corrosion warranty that BMW offer is worthless.

I have written to BMW in Germany and hope that I am taken seriously with my claim before I have to seek legal help in this matter.

I did hope that this could have been resolved in a reasonable manner clearly this will not be the case now.

Yours sincerely


So rant over.....

Pictures below

http://s66.beta.photobucket.com/user/nigeblueflame/library/BMW%20330cd%20e46%20paint%20defects

I might add that from Jan 2004 BMW offered a 12 year anti corrosion paint warranty on their vehicles.

Your comments would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks
Nige

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Re: BMW Corrosion Warranty - Not worth a carrot !!
« Reply #1 on: December 01, 2012, 07:25:45 pm »
rear of the arch is not exactly a prime candidate for a stone chip, is it? so if it's not been sprayed (implying no accident and subsequent repair) and it's not had a stone chip, where do they thing this "penetration" has come from?

not acceptable at all from a so-called "premium" manufacturer. i'd call the Citizens' Advice Bureau and hit them again on Monday once your position is made clear.

i am slightly surprised tho, i didn't think the E46 suffered from rot?
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Re: BMW Corrosion Warranty - Not worth a carrot !!
« Reply #2 on: December 01, 2012, 07:30:35 pm »
wow that is very bad Nig.I remember a few years ago there was issues with the 19" alloy wheels cracking on the bmw ,but they won't do any thing until Watch dog got involved and they started replacing them under warranty..Have you been on the bmw forum to see if anybody eles car is doing the same!!What year is the car

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Re: BMW Corrosion Warranty - Not worth a carrot !!
« Reply #3 on: December 01, 2012, 07:34:58 pm »
They weren't interested in the key security issue until their hand was forced either. You just need to keep pushing.
Sideways yo!

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Re: BMW Corrosion Warranty - Not worth a carrot !!
« Reply #4 on: December 01, 2012, 07:38:00 pm »
They weren't interested in the key security issue until their hand was forced either. You just need to keep pushing.
Good point Mike--forgot about that as well

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Re: BMW Corrosion Warranty - Not worth a carrot !!
« Reply #5 on: December 01, 2012, 08:11:37 pm »
Thanks for the response guy's.

Well you all know how my mind works....

Let's see if this gets their attention

send it viral  :grin:





« Last Edit: December 01, 2012, 08:20:47 pm by nige bcs »

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Re: BMW Corrosion Warranty - Not worth a carrot !!
« Reply #6 on: December 01, 2012, 08:38:57 pm »
They weren't interested in the key security issue until their hand was forced either. You just need to keep pushing.
BMW's latest software update now stops this issue. I just had my 335i updated and now can sleep at night! I'm really interested how you get on with your claim. I'd be seething!
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Re: BMW Corrosion Warranty - Not worth a carrot !!
« Reply #7 on: December 01, 2012, 08:42:54 pm »
wow that is very bad Nig.I remember a few years ago there was issues with the 19" alloy wheels cracking on the bmw ,but they won't do any thing until Watch dog got involved and they started replacing them under warranty..Have you been on the bmw forum to see if anybody eles car is doing the same!!What year is the car

Cars a 2004 so inside the warranty period which began in January that year (12 year anti corrosion warranty - pah !!)

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Re: BMW Corrosion Warranty - Not worth a carrot !!
« Reply #8 on: December 09, 2012, 04:14:19 pm »
Outcome?
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Re: BMW Corrosion Warranty - Not worth a carrot !!
« Reply #9 on: December 09, 2012, 05:26:10 pm »
Gosh that's a shocking amount of rust.  Wouldn't expect that :sick:

Good luck with a resolution

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Re: BMW Corrosion Warranty - Not worth a carrot !!
« Reply #10 on: December 09, 2012, 05:30:38 pm »
We work on loads of E46's and rust in those spots are extremely common.

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Re: BMW Corrosion Warranty - Not worth a carrot !!
« Reply #11 on: December 09, 2012, 05:56:43 pm »
Totally uninterested was the outcome. Totally unimpressed with BMW aftercare if honest.
To be fair enjoyed myself making he video.
Will just get our paint guy to do the repairs.
Shame really - the car's awesome.
Thanks for all who took the trouble to care.
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Re: BMW Corrosion Warranty - Not worth a carrot !!
« Reply #12 on: December 09, 2012, 09:05:58 pm »
if nothing else that makes poor business sense - if you don't buy a BMW next then they've already lost the money they would have spent repairing your car!
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