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Offline Janner_Sy

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Re: What would u say a stage 2 ed30 should keep up with
« Reply #15 on: December 30, 2012, 06:26:31 pm »
I love power to weight.  There is nothing more fun than overtaking much more powerful cars on trackdays and seeing they're surprise.  The cars mine can keep up with makes me laugh and I havent even bothered running the Methanol injection and the more aggressive map yet either. (too scared of of the car braking to use it lol)

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Re: What would u say a stage 2 ed30 should keep up with
« Reply #16 on: December 30, 2012, 06:43:05 pm »
 Ford Focus ST170 - (143)
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Re: What would u say a stage 2 ed30 should keep up with
« Reply #17 on: December 30, 2012, 07:44:30 pm »
Sure I saw it at 1330kg on a site the other night when some arse with a mk2 focus rs was giving me jip!
Just showed ed30 stats, eg dimensions, power, weight, mpg etc
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Re: What would u say a stage 2 ed30 should keep up with
« Reply #18 on: December 30, 2012, 08:29:11 pm »
These power to weight figures don't really mean much especially as most people are talking about 30-70 and rolling starts etc.

For example sl55's p2w isnt that high but it will destroy a stage 2 eddy.
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Re: What would u say a stage 2 ed30 should keep up with
« Reply #19 on: December 30, 2012, 08:36:11 pm »
Quote from: Leeds s3 on December 30, 2012, 08:29:11 pm
These power to weight figures don't really mean much especially as most people are talking about 30-70 and rolling starts etc.

For example sl55's p2w isnt that high but it will destroy a stage 2 eddy.

I think youd be surprised.  Is there a video of this?  Id be interested to see how close, especially with a DSG car :happy2:
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Re: What would u say a stage 2 ed30 should keep up with
« Reply #20 on: December 30, 2012, 08:41:39 pm »
Quote from: Oli on December 30, 2012, 08:36:11 pm
Quote from: Leeds s3 on December 30, 2012, 08:29:11 pm
These power to weight figures don't really mean much especially as most people are talking about 30-70 and rolling starts etc.

For example sl55's p2w isnt that high but it will destroy a stage 2 eddy.

I think youd be surprised.  Is there a video of this?  Id be interested to see how close, especially with a DSG car :happy2:

Echo that oli.. Ed30 at stage 2 with DSG does surprise more powerfull cars than you think.
Only Problem is getting the dam front wheels to stick :grin:
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Re: What would u say a stage 2 ed30 should keep up with
« Reply #21 on: December 30, 2012, 08:42:00 pm »
The power to weight figures are pretty meaningless if the car in question can't translate that power to the road. Obviously at higher speeds its not an issue but I'd imagine a 320bhp front wheel drive hatch has problems in first and second gear?
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Re: What would u say a stage 2 ed30 should keep up with
« Reply #22 on: December 30, 2012, 08:43:15 pm »
Quote from: Saintsteve on December 30, 2012, 08:41:39 pm
Only Problem is getting the dam front wheels to stick :grin:

Ha, beat me to it!
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Re: What would u say a stage 2 ed30 should keep up with
« Reply #23 on: December 30, 2012, 08:47:55 pm »
Power is nothing without control  :P
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Re: What would u say a stage 2 ed30 should keep up with
« Reply #24 on: December 30, 2012, 08:54:39 pm »
There's too many factors to put into the equation to find out what cars are quickest really so all tests/races should be taken very mildly.

I have a stage 1 ED30 running 306bhp on Awesome's RR. It's got DSG, coilovers n WALK.

I have also recently sold my VXR8 auto which ran at 472bhp on a Dyno Dynamics RR.

On a rolling start around 30mph the Golf pulled off for a fraction, then the VXR8 picked up speed n stuck with the Golf.

Both had drivers who can drive good enough even though it's practically a point n go situation as it was on a straight.

If P-W ratio was worked out I bet there would be quite a difference to these 2
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Re: What would u say a stage 2 ed30 should keep up with
« Reply #25 on: December 30, 2012, 09:04:49 pm »
What power has the VXR8 got as standard?
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Re: What would u say a stage 2 ed30 should keep up with
« Reply #26 on: December 30, 2012, 09:11:05 pm »
(412bhp) Standard VXR8 is 227bhp / tonne
(419bhp) 6.2 VXR8 is 233 bhp / tonne
(533bhp) Supercharged is 291bhp / tonne

1850kg~

Based on your 472bhp version (which one was that?)

VXR8 472 bhp version = 255 bhp per tonne

Your Ed.30 is around 233bhp per tonne
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Re: What would u say a stage 2 ed30 should keep up with
« Reply #27 on: December 30, 2012, 09:11:12 pm »
All this talk about Edition 30's. Stage 1 Octy's are where it's at.  :evilgrin:
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Re: What would u say a stage 2 ed30 should keep up with
« Reply #28 on: December 30, 2012, 09:19:05 pm »
Oooooh, I like these types of threads.  :popcornsoda:

I have the official VW PDF brochure for the ED30 stating that the 3dr manual ED30 is 1357kg without the driver. :happy2:
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Re: What would u say a stage 2 ed30 should keep up with
« Reply #29 on: December 30, 2012, 09:39:34 pm »
Quote from: Sonic6103 on December 30, 2012, 08:54:39 pm
There's too many factors to put into the equation to find out what cars are quickest really so all tests/races should be taken very mildly.


Power to weight is only relative to peak Hp.  The differences between two vehicles bhp/ton might differ vastly throughout the revrange.


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