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Re: Understeer worse with WALK
« Reply #45 on: January 10, 2013, 02:15:03 pm »
Seems like you had these guys working on it.


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Re: Understeer worse with WALK
« Reply #46 on: January 10, 2013, 02:21:55 pm »
I pay £70 for laser geo at Votex in Congleton. And they do it right.  :happy2:

Out of interest, how much was the WALK install? I got charged an hour's labour + geo.

Looks like £33 for fitting it. Only trouble was one of the bolts snapped in half when they were removing the old parts and so I had to wait 2 weeks for them to get a new centre console in stock (the big metal plate that sits underneath the front of the car). So that cost me another £150 including parts and fitting. For the price altogether I wish I had gone with a set of ARB's instead!

I had three bolts snap in my other car which is an Altea on Xmas Eve when swapping from the WALK to the SALK.  I just drilled the old bolts out and replaced with Timeserts and new bolts.  Had a bolt snap in a GTi the other day too.  No need for a new section of subframe.





TBH if the rear toe bolts have seized then they will need new bushes and bolts.  Had to cut quite a few off recently and replace with poly bushes.  No other way around it, but I can usually get enough twist in the bush to get the alignment better.  Never had camber bolts seize even on very high mileage cars.
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Re: Understeer worse with WALK
« Reply #47 on: January 10, 2013, 04:37:12 pm »
Just for info this is my alignment prinout after Alex had done with it. Superpro ALK, H&R springs and rear arb. Handling is fantastic. So much fun to drive.



Would that setup be applicable to a car with no suspension upgrades?

From what I remember, Alex its not far off a stock set up which is pretty good as it is. It all depends on how you would like your car to handle I suppose and whether you do trackdays. For me I find this set up very balanced but I have no knowledge or experience of how different alignments affect the handling.

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Re: Understeer worse with WALK
« Reply #48 on: January 10, 2013, 05:15:20 pm »
^^^^
All my setting values are a little bit more away from standard than Alex has done but they suit me well.


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Re: Understeer worse with WALK
« Reply #49 on: January 11, 2013, 10:39:32 am »


Looks like £33 for fitting it. Only trouble was one of the bolts snapped in half when they were removing the old parts and so I had to wait 2 weeks for them to get a new centre console in stock (the big metal plate that sits underneath the front of the car). So that cost me another £150 including parts and fitting. For the price altogether I wish I had gone with a set of ARB's instead!
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I had three bolts snap in my other car which is an Altea on Xmas Eve when swapping from the WALK to the SALK.  I just drilled the old bolts out and replaced with Timeserts and new bolts.  Had a bolt snap in a GTi the other day too.  No need for a new section of subframe.





TBH if the rear toe bolts have seized then they will need new bushes and bolts.  Had to cut quite a few off recently and replace with poly bushes.  No other way around it, but I can usually get enough twist in the bush to get the alignment better.  Never had camber bolts seize even on very high mileage cars.
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They've told me that both the toe and camber bolts were seized up!

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Re: Understeer worse with WALK
« Reply #50 on: January 11, 2013, 06:58:44 pm »
So they won't touch those, but they'll happily snap your seized subframe bolts?
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Re: Understeer worse with WALK
« Reply #51 on: January 11, 2013, 07:06:47 pm »
Isnt it their job to un-seize the bolts?!


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Re: Understeer worse with WALK
« Reply #52 on: January 11, 2013, 07:16:22 pm »
think i will be getting Alex to do my bottom arm bush and tracking

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Re: Understeer worse with WALK
« Reply #53 on: January 11, 2013, 09:34:57 pm »
So they won't touch those, but they'll happily snap your seized subframe bolts?

Yep fair point! I've booked it into the dealers in York where I live to have a look at and do the alignment if possible, can't be arsed making the 200 mile round trip to Awesome anymore just to be told all my flipping bolts are seized up! The car is only 6 years old, anyone would think it was a 30 year old mark 1!

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Re: Understeer worse with WALK
« Reply #54 on: January 11, 2013, 10:37:34 pm »
So they won't touch those, but they'll happily snap your seized subframe bolts?

You dont always know until it snaps that its going to snap.

I snapped an alloy banjo bolt on a turbo last week.  Why the f*ck anyone would use an alloy banjo bolt in a turbo is beyond me, but there was no warning it was going to snap.

Knew straight away the bolts were going to snap on the Altea after the first turn.  Had no option but to snap them off as there is no way of un seizing them.
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Re: Understeer worse with WALK
« Reply #55 on: January 11, 2013, 11:12:21 pm »
The joys of all these nice  alloy bits and steel bolts!

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Re: Understeer worse with WALK
« Reply #56 on: January 11, 2013, 11:24:23 pm »
These console bolts are a pain - they stand proud of the aluminium, gather dirt and suffer galvanic corrosion, resulting in them galling horribly when you try to remove them. Happened on my car, but thankfully the bolts sheered with enough of a bolt still above the aluminium, so I removed the affected parts from the car, welded a nut on the top and then turned the bolt out through what would ordinarily be the top.

Had the same fun removing an ARB droplink on my other car recently - ARB droplink ballt joint / pinch bolt made of steel, hub made of aluminium......


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Re: Understeer worse with WALK
« Reply #57 on: January 11, 2013, 11:52:41 pm »
These console bolts are a pain - they stand proud of the aluminium, gather dirt and suffer galvanic corrosion, resulting in them galling horribly when you try to remove them. Happened on my car, but thankfully the bolts sheered with enough of a bolt still above the aluminium, so I removed the affected parts from the car, welded a nut on the top and then turned the bolt out through what would ordinarily be the top.

Had the same fun removing an ARB droplink on my other car recently - ARB droplink ballt joint / pinch bolt made of steel, hub made of aluminium......



Bugger, ARB's are probably my next thing on the list to upgrade, not sure I could handle anything else snapping or seizing!

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Re: Understeer worse with WALK
« Reply #58 on: January 11, 2013, 11:57:18 pm »
These console bolts are a pain - they stand proud of the aluminium, gather dirt and suffer galvanic corrosion, resulting in them galling horribly when you try to remove them. Happened on my car, but thankfully the bolts sheered with enough of a bolt still above the aluminium, so I removed the affected parts from the car, welded a nut on the top and then turned the bolt out through what would ordinarily be the top.

Had the same fun removing an ARB droplink on my other car recently - ARB droplink ballt joint / pinch bolt made of steel, hub made of aluminium......



Bugger, ARB's are probably my next thing on the list to upgrade, not sure I could handle anything else snapping or seizing!

It's a very different design on my other car, and for what it's worth, when I did unbolt the ARBs on my golf they came undone with ease.

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Re: Understeer worse with WALK
« Reply #59 on: January 12, 2013, 04:56:14 am »

Alex did a class job on aligning my car before the last track day.  Turn in grip were outstanding!

Yet to give it some b4st4rd since having the full poly bushes and adj top mounts.