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Understeer worse with WALK
« on: January 09, 2013, 10:13:53 pm »
So I had a Whiteline Anti-lift kit fitted last week at Awesome GTI, and a wheel alignment done by them after fitting, and yesterday I went around a local roundabout at around 20mph, one that I know well and the car has never had any problem going around, and this time the car understeered terribly and nearly came off the road! I thought the WALK kit was supposed to help the handling?! The road was damp, but I'm pretty sure I used to be able to make the turn without any trouble before, anyone experienced this, and what exactly is the WALK supposed to help with?
« Last Edit: January 09, 2013, 10:18:32 pm by C4MKV »

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Re: Understeer worse with WALK
« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2013, 10:17:13 pm »
You have contradicted yourself in the statement compared to topic title. Did the back end try and step out on the roundabout or did the car try and go straight on as you turned.  :happy2:

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Re: Understeer worse with WALK
« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2013, 10:18:16 pm »
Do you have a printout of the alignment as this will affect the car more than the bushes.
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Re: Understeer worse with WALK
« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2013, 10:20:23 pm »
Sorry, typo! I've corrected, yes the car understeered as I tried to turn right around the roundabout, it went straight on before I corrected it. I've tried a few different turns and it's not too bad going around general bends but anything tight and it feels really unstable.

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Re: Understeer worse with WALK
« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2013, 10:21:21 pm »
Damn... must be something wrong, because mine really digs in during fast cornering.

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Re: Understeer worse with WALK
« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2013, 10:26:31 pm »
The effect of the WALK kit should be slightly heavier steering, and feel of more grip as you exit roundabouts. I would be driving it carefully back to them. They might have forgotten to tighten something up. It should defo feel more planted not skittish with more under steer.  :chicken:

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Re: Understeer worse with WALK
« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2013, 10:28:47 pm »
Do you have a printout of the alignment as this will affect the car more than the bushes.

Yes I was given a print out, there are some figures that don't match from left to right. The Left rear thrust angle is 0.35 degrees and the right rear is 0.05 degrees. Is this within tolerance? On the print out diagram it is showing the right rear toe being at an angle with the right being straight. It's the first wheel alignment print out I've been given so not sure what to look for.

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Re: Understeer worse with WALK
« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2013, 10:32:07 pm »
Do you have a printout of the alignment as this will affect the car more than the bushes.

Yes I was given a print out, there are some figures that don't match from left to right. The Left rear thrust angle is 0.35 degrees and the right rear is 0.05 degrees. Is this within tolerance? On the print out diagram it is showing the right rear toe being at an angle with the right being straight. It's the first wheel alignment print out I've been given so not sure what to look for.

Can you scan it in or take a pic and post it up.
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Re: Understeer worse with WALK
« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2013, 10:48:00 pm »
Yep, here's a pic:


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Re: Understeer worse with WALK
« Reply #9 on: January 09, 2013, 10:50:54 pm »
The rear looks all on the piss, did they actually do all 4 wheels?

Something isn't right.
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Re: Understeer worse with WALK
« Reply #10 on: January 09, 2013, 10:51:36 pm »
As far as I know yes, I could see that they had sensors on all wheels

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Re: Understeer worse with WALK
« Reply #11 on: January 09, 2013, 10:54:00 pm »
Rear toe should match to be honest... no wonder its understeeing with that toe in on the rear passenger side.

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Re: Understeer worse with WALK
« Reply #12 on: January 09, 2013, 10:57:58 pm »
It's not what I'd call a fast road set up by any stretch, it must feel numb.

There may be some good explanation, like diesel on the roundabout, drop in temp (sumer tyres don't like being below 7 degrees), tyre pressures...

I'd still have them check everything again though.  :happy2:
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Re: Understeer worse with WALK
« Reply #13 on: January 09, 2013, 11:04:54 pm »
It was 10 degrees so not exactly cold, and the road was damp but not wet, hadn't rained since the day before. As I said it's not feeling right when I push it around any roundabout, but since then I've taken others a little slower!

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Re: Understeer worse with WALK
« Reply #14 on: January 09, 2013, 11:07:31 pm »
Sorry to hijack the thread but does anyone have the figures for fast road set up on the gti??