*** Coilovers going on tomorrow ***

[Top Cat]

Thought i would get a topic going.

KW, V2's going on along with the whiteline anti-lift kit i have had them 3 weeks now so cant wait to get them on the car i will do a bit of a review on Saturday and do a before and after pic of the ride height. 

[182_blue]

Look forward to the pics and review 

[WhiteGTI]

Very cool. Both items are on my future shopping list! Look forward to hearing how the car has changed after you get them fitted!

Hope it goes well TC.

[SteveP]

Very nice TC  

I will watching this one with interest, need lots of details above ride feel before and after.

[RedRobin]

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I look forward to reading all about this. Am going a similar route as you already know.

[RedRobin]

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Oh, while I remember - You might wish to ask the guys fitting the Antilifts what they think about upgrading the bushes on the other side of the wishbone.

[Top Cat]

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Oh, while I remember - You might wish to ask the guys fitting the Antilifts what they think about upgrading the bushes on the other side of the wishbone.

Yep thanks RR that was one of my questions. 

[T88OMM]

Good stuff TC. She will handle like she is on rails, top class set up. Looking forward to seeing a review 

[Teutonic_Tamer]

So they are going on this Saturday?  Are you doing it yourself?

[Top Cat]

So they are going on this Saturday?  Are you doing it yourself?

Keep up TT there going on as we speak. 
A good garage is doing the install for me, they have already done the anti-lift kit for some one else.
While i have you what do you think about the suggestion of uprating the bushes on the front wishbone as well i think VW racing mentioned it may also be a good idea to RedRobin but they have not looked into it as yet for him. so whats your thought's.
And in layman's terms can you explain a bit about the rake. i have been asking what effects this has on the car as i was thinking  about leveling the stance up to neutral rather than VW settings which if i am correct slightly negative or what ever the term is. i mentioned it to the chaps who are fitting them and he started sounding a bit like you my eyes started glazing over , he was on about balance going into a corner and weight distribution, but the upshot was it depends what you prefer which is also way over my head.
So advice would be appreciated but be warned i am next to the fire so keep it readable by muppets or i could glaze over again and nod off. 

[Greeners]

You need a good run to Solihull in the morning to try out your new toys!! 

[Top Cat]

You need a good run to Solihull in the morning to try out your new toys!! 

  its all motorway we would be looking at 180 MPH plus to test them on the M6 carpark. 

[Teutonic_Tamer]

So they are going on this Saturday?  Are you doing it yourself?

Keep up TT there going on as we speak. 
A good garage is doing the install for me, they have already done the anti-lift kit for some one else.

It's my age . . . . 

While i have you what do you think about the suggestion of uprating the bushes on the front wishbone as well i think VW racing mentioned it may also be a good idea to RedRobin but they have not looked into it as yet for him. so whats your thought's.

Uprated poly bushes on the leading edge of the lower wishbones (or indeed on any suspension component) are a bit of a grey area.  Yes, they will marginally improve the feel, and generall handling.  However, they are no where near as compliant as the standard rubber bushes.  Poly suspension bushes, which include the WALK, will give more noise through the car, and will create much more harsh "feelings" inside the car.  If you have a wife or kids, or generally enjoy the refinement of the car, I would just stick with the WALK, and leave the front bushes standard.

Just remember that VW Racing are race car or motorsport specialists.  You need someone who knows what works best on the road.

And in layman's terms can you explain a bit about the rake.

Who mentioned "rake"?  Rake is a term used only on motorbikes.! <sigh!>

On cars, or other four (or more) wheeled vehicles, then the only components of front steering & suspension geometery used are:

• Steering Axis Inclination (used to be called King Pin Inclination)
• Camber
• Castor
• Toe

i have been asking what effects this has on the car as i was thinking  about leveling the stance up to neutral rather than VW settings which if i am correct slightly negative or what ever the term is. i mentioned it to the chaps who are fitting them and he started sounding a bit like you my eyes started glazing over , he was on about balance going into a corner and weight distribution, but the upshot was it depends what you prefer which is also way over my head.

Hmmmmm, sounds like someone is trying to lighten your wallet un-necessarily.  Unless you have a forumla one car, or a BTCC race car, you really shouldn't be hassled by these un-nessecary complications.  Just stick to the standard GTI road car settings, because that is where your car will be used for 99.9999999% of the time.

So advice would be appreciated but be warned i am next to the fire so keep it readable by muppets or i could glaze over again and nod off. 

OI - wake up!

[Top Cat]

OK i may have missed it in you explanation, but what i meant was the stance as standard sits a couple of centimetres lower at the back. if i lower it say one inch all round then it is still lower at the back than the front,
if i lower it a bit more on the front so the gap on front and back arches are the same, l what negative effects will this have on the braking and balance i am assuming that VW have this slightly leaned back stance for a reason.
sorry for being tupid. 

[Teutonic_Tamer]

OK i may have missed it in you explanation, but what i meant was the stance as standard sits a couple of centimetres lower at the back. if i lower it say one inch all round then it is still lower at the back than the front,
if i lower it a bit more on the front so the gap on front and back arches are the same, l what negative effects will this have on the braking and balance i am assuming that VW have this slightly leaned back stance for a reason.
sorry for being tupid. 

You mean the arch gaps?  And the fact that front arch gaps are always larger than the rears?

The reason the fronts have a larger gap, is simply to allow them to steer.  Lower the front too much, and you will snag the bodywork when turning corners.

Also, if you lower the front more than the rears, you risk upsetting the brake balance, not to mention making the steering heavier, and possibly smacking a hole in your sump!

10mm extra would be the max difference from standard settings.