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Re: KW Clubsports fitted on my Ed 30 now with pics!
« Reply #30 on: August 06, 2009, 09:18:51 pm »
looks amazing  :happy2:
(although Im surprised how much in ride height esp at the rear our cars are both as std!)
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Re: KW Clubsports fitted on my Ed 30 now with pics!
« Reply #31 on: August 06, 2009, 10:02:58 pm »
looks amazing  :happy2:
(although Im surprised how much in ride height esp at the rear our cars are both as std!)

Do you mean they both sit fairly high at the back?

Since been fettled again since these photo's prior to my visit to VWR.

Shame I haven't got proper brakes in behind those wheels though...they will have to wait.

Trying to keep the miles off it...so easy to rack the miles up especially when you want to drive it everywhere!
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Re: KW Clubsports fitted on my Ed 30 now with pics!
« Reply #32 on: August 06, 2009, 10:16:18 pm »

Trying to keep the miles off it...so easy to rack the miles up especially when you want to drive it everywhere!


....Tell me about it!! It's hopeless trying to limit your mileage when you love driving it. I'm at 70k miles in exactly 4 years - That equals 140k in only another 4 years time! :sad1:

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Re: KW Clubsports fitted on my Ed 30 now with pics!
« Reply #33 on: August 06, 2009, 10:20:55 pm »
sorry my bad texting again!
I meant how yours did sit quite high , whereas mine is lower as std.
still want springs or coilovers though
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Re: KW Clubsports fitted on my Ed 30 now with pics!
« Reply #34 on: August 06, 2009, 10:26:20 pm »
sorry my bad texting again!
I meant how yours did sit quite high , whereas mine is lower as std.
still want springs or coilovers though

Save up for the Clubsports..you'll never look back....I was all for buying the KWV3's but was persuaded to buy the hand built Clubsports where you get camber adjustment at the front.....very very comfortable....better than stock.

The back has been raised very very slightly now....sits lovely jubbly! :happy2:

KW will recommend these over everything else they sell for road and track.....interesting and helpful info from KW and VWR re these latest kits....get saving :wink:
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Re: KW Clubsports fitted on my Ed 30 now with pics!
« Reply #35 on: August 06, 2009, 10:57:37 pm »
sorry my bad texting again!
I meant how yours did sit quite high , whereas mine is lower as std.
still want springs or coilovers though

Save up for the Clubsports..you'll never look back....I was all for buying the KWV3's but was persuaded to buy the hand built Clubsports where you get camber adjustment at the front.....very very comfortable....better than stock.

The back has been raised very very slightly now....sits lovely jubbly! :happy2:

KW will recommend these over everything else they sell for road and track.....interesting and helpful info from KW and VWR re these latest kits....get saving :wink:

How do you guys with clubsports feel about not having a warranty if I read things correctly.

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Re: KW Clubsports fitted on my Ed 30 now with pics!
« Reply #36 on: August 07, 2009, 12:13:23 am »

How do you guys with clubsports feel about not having a warranty if I read things correctly.


....Which is partly why I went for the VWR-KW-V3's. I'd forgotten that!


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Re: KW Clubsports fitted on my Ed 30 now with pics!
« Reply #37 on: August 07, 2009, 08:37:31 am »
sorry my bad texting again!
I meant how yours did sit quite high , whereas mine is lower as std.
still want springs or coilovers though

Save up for the Clubsports..you'll never look back....I was all for buying the KWV3's but was persuaded to buy the hand built Clubsports where you get camber adjustment at the front.....very very comfortable....better than stock.

The back has been raised very very slightly now....sits lovely jubbly! :happy2:

KW will recommend these over everything else they sell for road and track.....interesting and helpful info from KW and VWR re these latest kits....get saving :wink:

How do you guys with clubsports feel about not having a warranty if I read things correctly.


This was one concern I had so I contacted KW direct in the UK who distribute these and they are covered under warranty. They reassured me they were covered as they were TUV approved which would mean under consumer law in the UK they would have to honour any warranty issues. The obvious caveat for any item sold for your car is that soon as you engage in any motorsport or trackday events this would negate the dealer from covering an item under warranty. All garages I have known will always fall back on this clause unfortunately for us.
I can remember a certain garage who had a customer with an engine that was built and 6 months down the line after lots of trackdays it went bang. He went back for a warranty claim and the garage declined. Fair comment if your ragging your pride and joy on track. Public trackdays can put more strain on a car than racing due to the amount of laps you can muster up in 1 day compared to the average race event.

Back to KW's yes they will cover failures which was also backed up by Awesome.   
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Re: KW Clubsports fitted on my Ed 30 now with pics!
« Reply #38 on: August 07, 2009, 08:44:49 am »


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I really hope it's true what they say about German built Volkswagens living forever!
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well our mk2 16v is now on 215,000 and as you have seen by the pics she still looks great and runs fantastic ;)

the car looks great, perfect stance  :drool:

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Re: KW Clubsports fitted on my Ed 30 now with pics!
« Reply #39 on: August 07, 2009, 08:55:00 am »

The obvious caveat for any item sold for your car is that soon as you engage in any motorsport or trackday events this would negate the dealer from covering an item under warranty. All garages I have known will always fall back on this clause unfortunately for us.


....I can understand the justification on engine related issues but the Clubsports are very actively promoted and sold for use on trackdays! This needs clarification for those who now have KW Clubsports.

Fortunately I don't do trackdays but only laps of Nordschliefe and that's technically just a toll road :wink:

@ NEWEY - Thanks - Good news re longevity of VeeDubs :notworthy:


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Re: KW Clubsports fitted on my Ed 30 now with pics!
« Reply #40 on: August 07, 2009, 08:12:59 pm »

The obvious caveat for any item sold for your car is that soon as you engage in any motorsport or trackday events this would negate the dealer from covering an item under warranty. All garages I have known will always fall back on this clause unfortunately for us.


....I can understand the justification on engine related issues but the Clubsports are very actively promoted and sold for use on trackdays! This needs clarification for those who now have KW Clubsports.


I can confirm they are covered under warranty but I will try and get Awesome or KW to verify this on this post. :wink:

Fortunately I don't do trackdays but only laps of Nordschliefe and that's technically just a toll road :wink:

@ NEWEY - Thanks - Good news re longevity of VeeDubs :notworthy:
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Re: KW Clubsports for Edition 30!
« Reply #41 on: October 18, 2010, 08:00:17 pm »
....I'm afraid that great as good coilovers are, the addition of a Quaife diff really ties the package together. A FWD car such as the Mk5 GTI particularly benefits from a diff when remapped and therefore delivering more power to the road. VW have now recognised this and include an electronic XDS diff on the Mk6 GTI.

The Mk6 does NOT have an electronic diff.  Its' diff is an old skool conventional open diff, idential to the Mk5.  The XDS on the Mk6 is actually just a tweak in the ABS/ESP software - think of XDS as a 'proactive' EDL (EDL is another part of ESP).


And not having a dig at the Red leader - just updating the thread incase someone searches for sommat like 'XDS', or 'can I fit the Mk6 diff into my Mk5?'  :drinking:
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Re: KW Clubsports fitted on my Ed 30 now with pics!
« Reply #42 on: October 18, 2010, 09:07:01 pm »

....I'm afraid that great as good coilovers are, the addition of a Quaife diff really ties the package together. A FWD car such as the Mk5 GTI particularly benefits from a diff when remapped and therefore delivering more power to the road. VW have now recognised this and include an electronic XDS diff on the Mk6 GTI.


The Mk6 does NOT have an electronic diff.  Its' diff is an old skool conventional open diff, idential to the Mk5.  The XDS on the Mk6 is actually just a tweak in the ABS/ESP software - think of XDS as a 'proactive' EDL (EDL is another part of ESP).

And not having a dig at the Red leader - just updating the thread incase someone searches for sommat like 'XDS', or 'can I fit the Mk6 diff into my Mk5?'  :drinking:

....A genuine (not sarcastic!) Thank You for correcting me on this, Sean  :drinking:. At the time of writing I believed that VW's 'XDS' was an electronic diff. I have only fairly recently learnt that the XDS is as you describe.

Either way, XDS certainly doesn't feel like my Quaife and it's a no-brainer which I prefer!


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Re: KW Clubsports fitted on my Ed 30 now with pics!
« Reply #43 on: October 29, 2010, 11:19:03 pm »

....I'm afraid that great as good coilovers are, the addition of a Quaife diff really ties the package together. A FWD car such as the Mk5 GTI particularly benefits from a diff when remapped and therefore delivering more power to the road. VW have now recognised this and include an electronic XDS diff on the Mk6 GTI.


The Mk6 does NOT have an electronic diff.  Its' diff is an old skool conventional open diff, idential to the Mk5.  The XDS on the Mk6 is actually just a tweak in the ABS/ESP software - think of XDS as a 'proactive' EDL (EDL is another part of ESP).

And not having a dig at the Red leader - just updating the thread incase someone searches for sommat like 'XDS', or 'can I fit the Mk6 diff into my Mk5?'  :drinking:

....A genuine (not sarcastic!) Thank You for correcting me on this, Sean  :drinking:. At the time of writing I believed that VW's 'XDS' was an electronic diff. I have only fairly recently learnt that the XDS is as you describe.

Either way, XDS certainly doesn't feel like my Quaife and it's a no-brainer which I prefer!
Sadly, the latest Audis, including the new RS5, are going down this excessive nannying from electronics - they are using proactive cross axle braking under acceleration! :stupid:
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Re: KW Clubsports fitted on my Ed 30 now with pics!
« Reply #44 on: October 30, 2010, 05:24:17 pm »

Sadly, the latest Audis, including the new RS5, are going down this excessive nannying from electronics - they are using proactive cross axle braking under acceleration! :stupid:


....Am I not right in thinking that reactive response is 'better' (or at least more satisfying to drive) than proactive electronics?

Nannying = Numb-ifying.
It's like the words of Pink Floyd's "Comfortably Numb" but not like the breathtaking guitar of Dave Gilmour! [RR goes off to enjoy listening to it].



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