Questions to those who have VF/VWR engîne mounts installed

[AwesomeSarah]

worth an update me thinks

powerflex dog bone bush ordered from Awesome :
Lower Engine Mount Front PFF85-505
usual great customer service , thanks Sarah  

VWR lower engine mount  ordered (Road) :
LWR SUBFRAME   PART No VWR1KO   203
after recent forum members comments, I was a little concerned but gave em a call as its the VWR stuff I wanted
I spoke to both Claire (sales) and Mark (tech) , they even called me back  
Great advice given and part duly ordered. Its seems it should take roughly 75% of the slack out , so thats my first point of call (I suspect that itll be a full set eventually but I need to know the incremental differences for cabin NVH levels)

Its worth stating that based on my current experience VWR look to be trying very hard to improve things and I felt that was worth mentioning here. heres hoping it continues.

both parts to be fitted by Awesome at some point, and then onto the Pod to get   low 15's high 13's
Red leader has already done a review on this part   , so Im lost  

Oooh thank you kind sir ;)
No problem at all
Sarah

[john_o]

awaiting fitment , just shows you how big the VWR mount is 

[RedRobin]

^^^^
I don't know exactly why, john_o but your post and pic is making me grin!

Just wait til you get a Quaife!

Enjoy your new mods, buddy

[MAT ED30]

I am having the same fitted to mine very soon but am going for the solid mounts on mine I don't do rubber lol 

[RedRobin]

^^^^
You're in for an aural treat, Mat!

[MAT ED30]

^^^^
You're in for an aural treat, Mat!

I do hope so 

[john_o]

nice one Matt  , I wasnt brave enough for the full race set.
I'm already concerned about cabin vibration, and wanted to be incremental in adding the mounts as the labour for the lower mount means I dont have the option to really remove it!
(VWR say lower mount only  is not advisable with race mounts , its either all 3 or none)

[RedRobin]

nice one Matt  , I wasnt brave enough for the full race set.

I'm already concerned about cabin vibration, and wanted to be incremental in adding the mounts as the labour for the lower mount means I dont have the option to really remove it!

(VWR say lower mount only is not advisable with race mounts , its either all 3 or none)

....I'm guessing that the reason for not mixing 2 solid 'Race' mounts with the 'dogbone' mount is that as they are solid with no rubber/poly, any energy forces would transfer and potentially overwork the dogbone rubber in the third mount.

VWR were happy to install only their dogbone mount (Fast Road version) and it was myself who decided to later do the other 2 as well.

So, I'm concluding that it's only the 'Race' mounts that need all 3 to be the same.

Re your concern about cabin vibration, John, it's the 2 engine side mounts which add any vibration (and glorious Grrrrrrrrr! sounds) but it's minimal with the VWR 'Fast Road' version. It is subjective though and I know you've read my review covering this.

I really like your idea of swopping to that PFF85-505 poly and am going to do it.

[john_o]

sorry my bad explanation  , but I reckon your idea would be correct too Robin..
VWR advised NOT to run lower race mount with OE side mounts, as all the vibration then goes through the lower race mount...
I'll be quite happy if it stays quiet (but I am willing to accept some additional noise)
My overriding concern is getting rid of engine movement whilst retaining a quiet(ish) road car 

whod of thought engine mounts could be so interesting 

[RedRobin]

My overriding concern is getting rid of engine movement whilst retaining a quiet(ish) road car 

whod of thought engine mounts could be so interesting 

....With stock side mounts and the VWR lower mount, I found there was still very noticeable engine movement (opened the bonnet and blipped the throttle) but that the car felt to drive as if it's power was transferring to the road very much more directly (too strongly to be mistaken as placebo).

Also, absolutely no vibration/noise until the side mounts were added. I ran the car for a few weeks with just the Fast Road lower mount.

Definitely a very interesting subject!

[MAT ED30]

ok just been to awesome to pickup one of those powerflex bushes and the car is having the  race solid mount fitted with the brakes on the 17th   i dont mind hardcore   thats what i am after pure and simple i only want to do the job once and as i do trackdays in mine its what i was told to fit   cant wait  

[john_o]

 

[MAT ED30]

 
i will add to the review from robin when its done  as it might be abit mad but ohwell i like to hear my car  infact my beetle runs solid mounts all around 

[SteveP]

I know it doesn't take much but I am still confused 

What's the difference/benefits between the VWR, VF or BSH ones?

[MAT ED30]

I know it doesn't take much but I am still confused 

What's the difference/benefits between the VWR, VF or BSH ones?

the vf and the bsh ones are just push in bushes but the vwr one is a solid new mount