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Slight clutch slip
« on: February 06, 2013, 10:53:45 am »
Hi folks! Looking for some advise regards to clutch slipping . Whilst drive home from Edinburgh this morning sitting in top gear just below 3000rpm I put the foot down to pass traffic and I'm getting a small amount of slip only for a few seconds the revs rise about 500 rpm then car pulls as normal again! This only happens in top gear at this rpm can't get the car do it in any other gear or speed!
Car is 2006 gti stage 1 46k
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Re: Slight clutch slip
« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2013, 10:58:07 am »
Change down then.

You are applying maximum torque to the gear with most resistance. No wonder it slips.  :happy2:
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Re: Slight clutch slip
« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2013, 11:07:04 am »
Or get an uprated clutch and do whatever you want in any gear!!  :jumping:
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Re: Slight clutch slip
« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2013, 11:08:24 am »
Changing down defo works but this seems to be a new issue as its never done it before in the 3yrs of ownership/mapped!
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Re: Slight clutch slip
« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2013, 11:34:59 am »
A healthy standard clutch should be able to take WOT from 3k in any gear without slippage on a Stage1 GTI.  Although it's not recommended as good practice all the time.  A medium throttle should be fine though.

An aggressively torquey map and a lot of low RPM WOT'ing will definitely reduce the amount of miles you can get out of it... you've had 3 staged years on it...
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Re: Slight clutch slip
« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2013, 11:43:16 am »
Yeah those clutches are pretty strong, im suprised your full whack in 1st gear anyway... I can't get any power down in first without wheel hop and i'm all standard :)
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Re: Slight clutch slip
« Reply #6 on: February 06, 2013, 11:53:51 am »
Cheers for the comments folks  :happy2:
My map is quite aggressive (giac) and over time I've maybe became rather lazy relying on the torque to do the work ! Ill see how long it lasts and take it from there  :driver:
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Re: Slight clutch slip
« Reply #7 on: February 06, 2013, 11:55:30 am »
Quote from: DomMKVGTI on February 06, 2013, 11:43:16 am
Yeah those clutches are pretty strong, im suprised your full whack in 1st gear anyway... I can't get any power down in first without wheel hop and i'm all standard :)
im talking about 6th gear no way could I nail it in first it's just for moving off the mark :wink:
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Re: Slight clutch slip
« Reply #8 on: February 06, 2013, 11:58:09 am »
Quote from: kbish73 on February 06, 2013, 11:55:30 am
Quote from: DomMKVGTI on February 06, 2013, 11:43:16 am
Yeah those clutches are pretty strong, im suprised your full whack in 1st gear anyway... I can't get any power down in first without wheel hop and i'm all standard :)
im talking about 6th gear no way could I nail it in first it's just for moving off the mark :wink:

Ahh sorry I forget to read posts properly! Do you get lots of wheel hop and gear stick shake if you floor it in first? I think I need some stronger mounts as its always wet where I live  :drool:
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Re: Slight clutch slip
« Reply #9 on: February 06, 2013, 12:13:45 pm »
Quote from: DomMKVGTI on February 06, 2013, 11:58:09 am
Quote from: kbish73 on February 06, 2013, 11:55:30 am
Quote from: DomMKVGTI on February 06, 2013, 11:43:16 am
Yeah those clutches are pretty strong, im suprised your full whack in 1st gear anyway... I can't get any power down in first without wheel hop and i'm all standard :)
im talking about 6th gear no way could I nail it in first it's just for moving off the mark :wink:

Ahh sorry I forget to read posts properly! Do you get lots of wheel hop and gear stick shake if you floor it in first? I think I need some stronger mounts as its always wet where I live  :drool:
cant say I do but I never nail it in first but second will spin but I just change up again !
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Re: Slight clutch slip
« Reply #10 on: February 06, 2013, 12:40:35 pm »
Quote from: camfollower on February 06, 2013, 11:34:59 am
A healthy standard clutch should be able to take WOT from 3k in any gear without slippage on a Stage1 GTI.  Although it's not recommended as good practice all the time.  A medium throttle should be fine though.

An aggressively torquey map and a lot of low RPM WOT'ing will definitely reduce the amount of miles you can get out of it... you've had 3 staged years on it...

My GTI was slipping on day one after the remap. My Focus ST before also slipped with a remap. It does depend on the health of the clutch but I cant help thinking any mapped GTI manual will get clutch slip at some point, if not straight away.

The slip will only get worse. . . .  :sad1:
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Re: Slight clutch slip
« Reply #11 on: February 06, 2013, 12:43:22 pm »
Quote from: camfollower on February 06, 2013, 11:34:59 am
A healthy standard clutch should be able to take WOT from 3k in any gear without slippage on a Stage1 GTI. 

Says who? Do VW say that in their documentation somewhere?
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Re: Slight clutch slip
« Reply #12 on: February 06, 2013, 08:38:41 pm »
Quote from: Hedge on February 06, 2013, 12:43:22 pm
Quote from: camfollower on February 06, 2013, 11:34:59 am
A healthy standard clutch should be able to take WOT from 3k in any gear without slippage on a Stage1 GTI. 
An aggressively torquey map and a lot of low RPM WOT'ing will definitely reduce the amount of miles you can get out of it... you've had 3 staged years on it...

Says who? Do VW say that in their documentation somewhere?

Thought the standard clutch was rated at ~350lb/ft - if that's more like 300lb/ft then I can see why some of these aggressively torquey maps have issues.
Bluefin is much more restrained around 250lb/ft S1 and 270lb/ft S2... perhaps they realise the problem, where other tuners simply expect customers to swap out their clutches for an S1 map! :surprised:  Adding a whole lot more expense to a simple ECU flash!
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Re: Slight clutch slip
« Reply #13 on: February 06, 2013, 09:45:44 pm »
A standard clutch should easily be able to handle a stage one map! As for the designers of them, they  surely wouldn't use a clutch that was rated to just above a standard cars output figures as that would mean a crappy lifespan on a standard car. There are enough stage 2+ cars that run no problem. Mine been one. I did a track day and full day drag strip all on standard clutch stage 2+ and no problems at 50k
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