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Re: Road tyres for track...
« Reply #15 on: March 26, 2013, 11:17:43 am »
Mike, your car has enough chassis mods bolted to it to make running normal high performance road tyres feasible IMO, just keep an eye on the tyre pressures and temperatures.  Too much grip will be boring as well.

But for the price of top end high performance tyres you could get some RSRs.  I think they are a great tyre.

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Re: Road tyres for track...
« Reply #16 on: March 26, 2013, 09:48:13 pm »
Wondering why you're not looking at going for some MICHELIN Pilot Sport Cup's after seeing them in my local rubber fitters today.

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Re: Road tyres for track...
« Reply #17 on: March 26, 2013, 09:56:06 pm »
they dont last especially long and they are pretty expensive is the probable cause id imagine.

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Re: Road tyres for track...
« Reply #18 on: March 26, 2013, 11:16:09 pm »
Just get some non-road legal compound slicks, a second hand set will be cheap and if you've got a second set of wheels why not?

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Re: Road tyres for track...
« Reply #19 on: March 26, 2013, 11:20:04 pm »
Just get some non-road legal compound slicks, a second hand set will be cheap and if you've got a second set of wheels why not?

Because Mike doesnt have a cage...... yet.....

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Re: Road tyres for track...
« Reply #20 on: March 26, 2013, 11:25:35 pm »
think you need a cage to be allowed to run slicks on a track

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Re: Road tyres for track...
« Reply #21 on: March 26, 2013, 11:26:14 pm »
think you need a cage to be allowed to run slicks on a track
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Re: Road tyres for track...
« Reply #22 on: March 26, 2013, 11:43:16 pm »
think you need a cage to be allowed to run slicks on a track
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Slicks yes you need a cage. Compound slicks you're fine without (well I've not been refused admittance yet :innocent:)

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Re: Road tyres for track...
« Reply #23 on: March 27, 2013, 06:55:15 am »
Just get some non-road legal compound slicks, a second hand set will be cheap and if you've got a second set of wheels why not?

which ones have you tried?  :happy2: :happy2:

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Re: Road tyres for track...
« Reply #24 on: March 27, 2013, 10:36:43 pm »
I dont see the point of slicks on a track day. Your not competing and it soon gets boring driving round everyone. It needs to be a serious hobby if you want to put slicks on, you will be by passing the point of track days before you learn to drive a bit.  :wink:

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Re: Road tyres for track...
« Reply #25 on: March 27, 2013, 10:51:46 pm »
True, just that you can get them cheap if u buy pre-used ones.  

Mike mine are pirelli RS5s, £200 for the set
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Re: Road tyres for track...
« Reply #26 on: March 27, 2013, 10:58:35 pm »
Thats why the reckon the GT86 is such a great car to drive.  Not because its fast or sets the ultimate, but because its got the perfect amount of grip (from the same size tyres as a prius) to allow it to slide about and be a joy to drive.

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Re: Road tyres for track...
« Reply #27 on: March 31, 2013, 04:23:09 pm »
I'd mention these:

(alphabetical order)


street tyres:

- Bridgestone RE050A
- Conti SC 5P
- Michelin Pilot Sport PS2 (still a great tyre)
- Michelin Pilot SuperSport (225/40 R18 and 225/35 + 235/35 R19 only)
- Pirelli P Zero (no Rosso or Nero) and new P Zero Silver


"extreme performance" category:

- Bridgestone RE070 (225/45 R17 + 20'' only) - good value
- Dunlop Direzza Sport z1 Starspec (superceeded by z2)
- Dunlop SP600
- Federal 595 RS-R
- Goodridge G-Force Rival
- Hankook R-S2 (superceeded by R-S3 available in 2013 in Europe)
- Kumho XS KU36 (+ former KU15)
- Toyo R1-R
- Yokohama AD08 (best of class?)


true R compounds:

- Avon ZZR
- Bridgestone RE55/RE11s
- Conti ForceContact
- Dmack TrackDay (cheap/crap?)
- Dunlop SportMaxx Race (not as extreme as Direzza 03G)
- Dunlop Direzza 03G (most probably best)
- Falken Azenis RT-615K
- Federal FZ201
- Hankook TD z221 (new 2013)
- Kumho V700/V70a
- Michelin PS Cup/Cup+ (new PS Cup 2 coming mid 2013)
- Pirelli P Zero Corsa
- Pirelli P Zero Trofeo
- Pirelli P Zero Trofeo R (new)
- Toyo R888
- Yokohama A048R/A050



TESTs:


Test 225/40 R18  BMW E46:[/b]

http://www.kumhotire.de/fileadmin/KUMHO-Upload/Motorsport/pdf/AutoBild_0205.pdf


Test 225/40 R18  Golf GTI:

http://www.autobild.de/artikel/test-sportreifen-225-40-r-18-809404.html
http://www.autobild.de/bilder/sportreifen-225-40-r-18-811695.html#bild0|ref=http://www.autobild.de/artikel/test-sportreifen-225-40-r-18-809404.html


Test 225/40 R18  Audi A3:

http://www.sportauto.de/testbericht/sportreifen-im-test-1037210.html


Test 235/35 and 305/30 R19  Porsche Carrera 997:

http://www.sportauto.de/testbericht/sportreifen-test-235-35-und-305-30-r19-fuenf-griffige-alternativen-fuer-den-elfer-5305949.html


french Test 235/40 R18 Renault Megane RS:

http://trackparts.ch/images/pdf/semislicktest%202012%20echappement.pdf


EP + UHP 225/45 R17 Car & Driver BMW E92:

http://www.abload.de/img/bildschirmfoto2012-08touma.png
http://www.abload.de/img/bildschirmfoto2012-08uburq.png
http://www.abload.de/img/bildschirmfoto2012-08y2usv.png
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Re: Road tyres for track...
« Reply #28 on: March 31, 2013, 05:07:58 pm »
great Holger,
but i don't agree with the Michelin Pilot super sport, they were as capable on track as the Toyo R1R, and very easy to read from the drivers seat, along with no need to deflate for track due to the twaron used. So you need them a category down also along with where they are.
Magnificent tyre IMO  :drinking:

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Re: Road tyres for track...
« Reply #29 on: March 31, 2013, 06:25:08 pm »
Any particular reason for you not to mention Michelin PS3?  :smiley:

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