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VW Racing exhaust
« on: July 20, 2009, 05:44:44 pm »
Is there anyone here using the vwr exhaust? I have read that millteck makes them but just wondered what they are like? Are they really noisey? Been looking at there stage 1 power pack and it seems great value for money only trouble is that I live 345 miles away :sad1:
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Re: VW Racing exhaust
« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2009, 07:10:18 pm »
I don't believe anyone on here has one TBH.  :confused:
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Re: VW Racing exhaust
« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2009, 07:44:07 pm »
....

VWR's demo GTI aka "The Red Temptress" has one. It's not especially noisy but due to their engine mounts etc the sound inside the car is somewhat different anyway from how it will be on a stock car.

Also, the Milltek seems to sound a little deeper on the K04 than the K03 turbo.

The problem is that sound is very subjective to the individual.

Sorry I can't be more helpful but give Matt Walker at VWR a call and he'll be able to tell you more.

Steve(P), you've driven The Red Temptress - Did you find her noisy? Anyone else who has driven her? Mat? jonnyc?

[Yes, they are made by Milltek]
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Re: VW Racing exhaust
« Reply #3 on: July 20, 2009, 07:51:42 pm »
I found the VWR exhaust quite noisy and boomy when I had the demo car for a week and I told Mark when I returned it.  To be honest, my Milltek has developed a drone on the motorway at 75mph that it didn't have before although that may be the engine mounts helping the noise filter in... although it does seem to have gotten louder, so much so that I was going to have it put on a ramp and inspected.  Its probably nothing though and I just need to change it for a res back box as I cannot bear to increase the weight with soundproofing material that I had penciled in for the car.
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Re: VW Racing exhaust
« Reply #4 on: July 20, 2009, 08:05:48 pm »
Quote from: RedRobin on July 20, 2009, 07:44:07 pm
....

VWR's demo GTI aka "The Red Temptress" has one. It's not especially noisy but due to their engine mounts etc the sound inside the car is somewhat different anyway from how it will be on a stock car.

Also, the Milltek seems to sound a little deeper on the K04 than the K03 turbo.

The problem is that sound is very subjective to the individual.

Sorry I can't be more helpful but give Matt Walker at VWR a call and he'll be able to tell you more.

Steve(P), you've driven The Red Temptress - Did you find her noisy? Anyone else who has driven her? Mat? jonnyc?

[Yes, they are made by Milltek]

Yes I would say it is noisy and like Illyun experienced the same motorway drone as mine had on the non-res pipe, but agree the rest of the noise is more from the transfer effect from the engine mounts.

So for me it's great for the period's of time I have had driving the Tuning Golf but I know I couldn't live with it on a daily basis  :smiley:

Quote from: illyun on July 20, 2009, 07:51:42 pm
I found the VWR exhaust quite noisy and boomy when I had the demo car for a week and I told Mark when I returned it.  To be honest, my Milltek has developed a drone on the motorway at 75mph that it didn't have before although that may be the engine mounts helping the noise filter in... although it does seem to have gotten louder, so much so that I was going to have it put on a ramp and inspected.  Its probably nothing though and I just need to change it for a res back box as I cannot bear to increase the weight with soundproofing material that I had penciled in for the car.

Welcome to my (old) world Illyun, it's strange because like yours mine developed the drone worse as it got some more miles on it, and if like me your doing some high mileage it does become a little tiresome.

You almost need a part-res so you can combine the best parts of the res and non-res version  :wink:
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Re: VW Racing exhaust
« Reply #5 on: July 20, 2009, 08:30:57 pm »
And to think that I sold my resonated box to some lucky bugger....   :P 
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Re: VW Racing exhaust
« Reply #6 on: July 20, 2009, 08:33:24 pm »
Having heard the Blueflame on MatEd30's car back in Feb, I will probably opt for that for the Mk4... APR would be nice, but too dear for what it is.
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Re: VW Racing exhaust
« Reply #7 on: July 20, 2009, 09:07:16 pm »
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It all just goes to show how we each have different hearing and sound/noise thresholds and tastes - It's mostly why Milltek offer the Resonated and Non-Resonated options - to cover different tastes. My original 2005 Milltek's 3,200 revs boom disappeared after a couple of thousand miles. I used to get rid of it by using my right foot to either accelerate or lift off - Helps reduce the boredom of motorway driving.

I could easily live with VWR's 'tuning car' every day and love the sound of the stripped out road-legal track car (in my sig) even more - Not at all uncomfortable to my ears.

At the moment, my Milltek is a pre-production next generation system with a very similar (if not the same) back box to the VWR and 'we' (Milltek with my input) are currently about to develop a slightly louder res box to be equivalent to the older Non-Resonated version. I'm with them with my car at Castle Combe this Saturday if anyone going to the VW/Audi day is interested in knowing more directly from the horse's mouth.

The sound of my existing pre-production system is inbetween Resonated and Non-Resonated. Stokeballoon travelled with me to The Ring recently so he knows what that sounds like inside. And Steve and Greenie know what it sounds like from outside (I don't!).

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Re: VW Racing exhaust
« Reply #8 on: July 20, 2009, 09:11:55 pm »
I suppose the vwr exhaust is more designed in mind for motorsport use? It is really down to preferance but as my missus also uses the car I would imagine she would go nuts at a loud and drony exhaust. I do like the noise of the miltek very much I was just after a comparison :happy2:
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Re: VW Racing exhaust
« Reply #9 on: July 20, 2009, 09:13:17 pm »
Don't forget that hearing and frequency audibility reduces with age though Robin, so you are probably not hearing what I am  :booty:
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Re: VW Racing exhaust
« Reply #10 on: July 20, 2009, 09:27:40 pm »
Quote from: illyun on July 20, 2009, 09:13:17 pm
Don't forget that hearing and frequency audibility reduces with age though Robin, so you are probably not hearing what I am  :booty:

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Re: VW Racing exhaust
« Reply #11 on: July 20, 2009, 09:41:16 pm »
Quote from: strapper on July 20, 2009, 09:11:55 pm

I suppose the vwr exhaust is more designed in mind for motorsport use?


....No, the Milltek on the VWR 'tuning car' is for Fast Road use. The race cars really [< edit] are noisy! [By comparison].

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Re: VW Racing exhaust
« Reply #12 on: July 20, 2009, 09:45:54 pm »
Quote from: illyun on July 20, 2009, 09:13:17 pm

Don't forget that hearing and frequency audibility reduces with age though Robin, so you are probably not hearing what I am  :booty:


....I knew when I posted that it wouldn't take long for such a comment :laugh:

That's as may be but also don't forget that I spend time regularly editing and mixing music tracks (had some of my music on a BBC4 docu recently) and I'm considered to have quite good ears (cue for pics of donkeys? But I love Shrek!).

Still funny though :happy2:
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Re: VW Racing exhaust
« Reply #13 on: July 20, 2009, 10:51:41 pm »
Quote from: RedRobin on July 20, 2009, 09:41:16 pm
Quote from: strapper on July 20, 2009, 09:11:55 pm

I suppose the vwr exhaust is more designed in mind for motorsport use?


....No, the Milltek on the VWR 'tuning car' is for Fast Road use. The race cars really are noisy!

:smiley:

Yeah I saw them at knockhill in June they were pretty noisey :driver:
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Re: VW Racing exhaust
« Reply #14 on: October 18, 2010, 05:17:01 pm »
Quote from: RedRobin on July 20, 2009, 09:41:16 pm
Quote from: strapper on July 20, 2009, 09:11:55 pm

I suppose the vwr exhaust is more designed in mind for motorsport use?


....No, the Milltek on the VWR 'tuning car' is for Fast Road use. The race cars really are noisy!
No they aint.  Sam Roach specifically told me that most VWR cup race meets have quite strict noise regs - on par with most track days.  Yes, there are some meets with more liberal noise regs, but Sam confirmed that most VWC entrants stick with the quieter zorsts for all meets,
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