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Re: Surprised by a diesel civic...
« Reply #15 on: March 03, 2013, 10:47:03 pm »
Who on earth maps a diesel Civic though?
I would, the 2.2 was originally from the Accord and renowned as a very good engine.
Mind you I map every car I own, since I've owned Turbos, much more fun.

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Re: Surprised by a diesel civic...
« Reply #16 on: March 03, 2013, 11:12:10 pm »
Who on earth maps a diesel Civic though?

My old man remapped his old 2.2 civic, got 190 bhp out of it  :happy2:

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Re: Surprised by a diesel civic...
« Reply #17 on: March 04, 2013, 07:58:20 am »
Who on earth maps a diesel Civic though?

 :innocent:

I've mapped one on stock turbo with updated clutch and exhaust, big intercooler to 220bhp and 350ftlb. Nice flat torque curve and quite revvy.

Normal stage one makes 190bhp and 310ftlb. Clutches are weak though.

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Re: Surprised by a diesel civic...
« Reply #18 on: March 04, 2013, 08:06:30 am »
Those MPSs map to over 300bhp don't they?

Not shy them things.

2.3 turbo are they not?
sam89's pal on here has one. He says its running around 340-350. Pops bangs and spits flames like a good en.

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Re: Surprised by a diesel civic...
« Reply #19 on: March 04, 2013, 09:19:53 am »
Diesels are getting better & better... My best mate has a Ibiza FR thats been played with its about 205bhp but the torque levels are insane cant remember the exact figures but your talking 450 odd.

its very impressive indeed, epescially when considering it does 60 to the gallon!!

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Re: Surprised by a diesel civic...
« Reply #20 on: March 04, 2013, 09:55:34 am »
a diesel could be 20000bhp....they still sound like a soot chucker and dont scream like a good old petrol, 
I watch those diesel super truck things.....they just don't excite you like a real dragster, its all about the noise  :party:

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Re: Surprised by a diesel civic...
« Reply #21 on: March 04, 2013, 12:40:53 pm »
a diesel could be 20000bhp....they still sound like a soot chucker and dont scream like a good old petrol, 
I watch those diesel super truck things.....they just don't excite you like a real dragster, its all about the noise  :party:
nothing like a good soot chucker :grin:

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Re: Surprised by a diesel civic...
« Reply #22 on: March 04, 2013, 01:18:32 pm »
Who on earth maps a diesel Civic though?

 :innocent:

I've mapped one on stock turbo with updated clutch and exhaust, big intercooler to 220bhp and 350ftlb. Nice flat torque curve and quite revvy.

Normal stage one makes 190bhp and 310ftlb. Clutches are weak though.

Lol got to agree with the clutch statement, he's went like 4 months after  :grin:

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Re: Surprised by a diesel civic...
« Reply #23 on: March 04, 2013, 05:27:45 pm »
Peak Torque is just a number...

BHP is more important because gearboxes transmit this power to make torque at the wheels.

But yes there are some very good Diesels available.




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Re: Surprised by a diesel civic...
« Reply #24 on: March 04, 2013, 05:38:04 pm »
Oh no! A diesel Civic close to a GTI!

Go to the naughty corner and don't come back until your mapped! :signLOL:
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Re: Surprised by a diesel civic...
« Reply #25 on: March 04, 2013, 06:08:24 pm »
Fiat 500 arbarth pritty quick for what it is. I wasn't In the gti but my work car has a little bit of tuning :) and it was hanging on.


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Re: Surprised by a diesel civic...
« Reply #26 on: March 04, 2013, 06:21:24 pm »
Something went wrong here fella, doesn't sound right.

Lad at work has an FK 2.2CDTI (140hp ish) Civic and it's not as quick in all areas as my A3 2.0TDI 170ps version, not forgetting my cars heavier... And my Audi isn't quite as quick as my MK5 GTI (which presumably you have). I'd say the GTI was quicker off the line because of the TDI gear ratios and extra weight, but in gear it would be a lot closer, I'd still fancy the GTI though on road and track.

Based on this, his can't have been standard, or he was super prepared and you were desperately unlucky with traction/similar, or, the Civic was badged wrongly for this reason :evilgrin:

I now Rich (richwig) has a TDI badge on his Edition 30  :pomppomp:
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Re: Surprised by a diesel civic...
« Reply #27 on: March 04, 2013, 06:36:41 pm »
I've said this a lot recently but Diesels these days are just as tuneable as turbo petrols.

350+ bhp is possible from a 1.9tdi  :grin: - and it will still do 50+mpg. Have your cake and eat it  :stupid:

If it's mapped properly it should barely smoke too.

Saw a video of a Leon 170tdi with a Milltek exhaust and it sounded great  :happy2:

Kit here to take the common rail TDI engines up to 340bhp: http://www.darksidedevelopments.co.uk/products/darkside-gtb-turbo-kit-for-2-0-16v-common-rail-engines-2011.html

I can see a lot of people going over to diesel in the next few years. . .

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Re: Surprised by a diesel civic...
« Reply #28 on: March 04, 2013, 06:40:48 pm »
I can see a lot of people going over to diesel in the next few years. . .

Already happening isn't it?

When I'm up and down the M6 with work, I take a picture if I see a 3.2 FSI or 2.0T, 325i, 330i, S4, M3, V8/V6 petrol whatever it might be etc newer than about 2005...  :congrats:
Respect to the owners, sticking to their guns. If I could afford to mileage/fuel wise, I certainly would have done.
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Re: Surprised by a diesel civic...
« Reply #29 on: March 04, 2013, 08:45:43 pm »
I owned a 2.2 Type S civic before the Golf, mapped to ~190 bhp, and yes the clutch did go  :grin: but it was replaced under warranty due to a batch of faulty ones, happy days!

It went really well for a chucker, embarrassed a few repmobiles over the time I had it, but the suspension was very crashy (as a result felt much firmer than the GTI) and it couldn't handle anything like the golf. Big 2.2 wanting to jump over the slam panel!
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