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"Schroth Quickfit removable 4-point harness" By Tony Danza

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MAT ED30:
i dont think your seats will have been tested with harness as they are a design thing and i would think the belts are tuv approved but maybe not for your seats

Top Cat:
I am trying to imagine a type of crash were the unfortunate person sitting in the seat somehow got thrown forward with such force that the seat snapped. The whole idea of the harness is to keep you rooted to the seat.
I think if you managed to crash with such force as to do this then your neck would snap before the seat.  :sick:

tony_danza:
If the mounting points were at the wrong angle, say for example in the rear footwell (so like 70degrees off horizontal) - then it'd cause the seat to rotate as it'd pull down on the shoulders/harness guides of it and snap the back. You may also submarine out of it..

animal:
Robin, it's the harness its self that is TUV approved - that has no bearing what-so-ever on an individual installation or what seat it used with.

I would say that an Evo is far more likely to be set up for use with harnesses than a Golf GTi considering the market they are pitched at and the provsion of anchor points supports this. I've been trying to find info on the RS seats without success but they are very similar is design to the GTi seats, although as Robin points out - his GTi seats don't tilt forward like the RS ones do (as its a 3dr body shell). I wouldn't be at all suprised if the cut outs were just cosmetic though..

We can speculate until the cows come home - I agree we need solid facts to back this up. Sorry to open a can worms! But it is fairly well known in RS owner-circles that it's not considered safe as the seat cut-outs are more for aethetics than actual use. Perhaps our resident racing driver might be able to shed some light on this?

animal:

--- Quote from: tony_danza on November 17, 2009, 11:38:46 am ---If the mounting points were at the wrong angle, say for example in the rear footwell (so like 70degrees off horizontal) - then it'd cause the seat to rotate as it'd pull down on the shoulders/harness guides of it and snap the back. You may also submarine out of it..

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This is it... the concern with the RS seats was not that the two parts might seperate but the tendancy to twist because of the inherent weakness in the two part contruction. You need the seat to be as rigid as possible to handle the forces exerted on it. Everyone always assumes impact forces are linear where they very rarely are. People also seriously underestimate the forces involved in vehicles impacts, even at low speed.

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