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"Schroth Quickfit removable 4-point harness" By Tony Danza
tony_danza:
I can see if now...
Glasses on end of nose, printed off on A3 and highlighter pen giving it six-nowt.
/pulling legs.
RedRobin:
--- Quote from: tony_danza on November 19, 2009, 03:26:57 pm ---
Its known as a CS, so I can only assume a CSE is the version provided to the likes of VAG/BMW/Ford/Renault.
--- End quote ---
....Recaro CSE has user operable electric settings and memory and looks different to both ours.
The Recaro web site won't give a direct link to the page so: HOME Original Equipment >> Products >> All vehicles >> VW Golf V GTI >> and our Mk5 GTI has what Recaro call "cccls" as one of its many oem products for car manufacturers. The cccls is pictured as the same as mine and TC's and not the standard oem GTI seat. However I can find no other reference anywhere in cyberspace which relates to "Recaro cccls".
Looking at the various Recaro seat types which Schroth approve, I'm fairly confident we don't have a problem.
animal:
--- Quote from: RedRobin on November 19, 2009, 04:02:24 pm ---
--- Quote from: tony_danza on November 19, 2009, 03:26:57 pm ---
Its known as a CS, so I can only assume a CSE is the version provided to the likes of VAG/BMW/Ford/Renault.
--- End quote ---
....Recaro CSE has user operable electric settings and memory and looks different to both ours.
The Recaro web site won't give a direct link to the page so: HOME Original Equipment >> Products >> All vehicles >> VW Golf V GTI >> and our Mk5 GTI has what Recaro call "cccls" as one of its many oem products for car manufacturers. The cccls is pictured as the same as mine and TC's and not the standard oem GTI seat. However I can find no other reference anywhere in cyberspace which relates to "Recaro cccls".
Looking at the various Recaro seat types which Schroth approve, I'm fairly confident we don't have a problem.
--- End quote ---
I have posted this else where in a current, relevant post. But, I thought it important to capture it here. It would seem my early concerns weren't entirely un-founded after all. I noticed this on my lower B-pillar (inside the door-shut) at the weekend (I have factory fitted Recaros):
RedRobin:
^^^^
I still think it depends on the angle of the straps. The Schroth info shows it and it's already been posted in this thread IIRC. The point is that the Schroth Quikfit uses extra floor anchors (and it's TUV approved).
That label illustration shows the Recaro seat front, not back, and the Schroth male 'tabs' run in the other opposite direction.
Furthermore, I translate that label as an instruction to feed the 'tabs' in the direction which the Schroth does.
I would even go as far as suggesting that this label indicates a support of the use of such safety belts.
animal:
--- Quote from: RedRobin on May 24, 2010, 02:31:51 pm ---^^^^
I still think it depends on the angle of the straps. The Schroth info shows it and it's already been posted in this thread IIRC. The point is that the Schroth Quikfit uses extra floor anchors (and it's TUV approved).
That label illustration shows the Recaro seat front, not back, and the Schroth male 'tabs' run in the other opposite direction.
Furthermore, I translate that label as an instruction to feed the 'tabs' in the direction which the Schroth does.
I would even go as far as suggesting that this label indicates a support of the use of such safety belts.
--- End quote ---
Robin, a big part of my job is designing pictograms for user instructions and making things as simple and as clear cut as possible graphically, whilst being technically correct and leaving little scope for mis-interpretation. This is without any doubt a warning sticker. IM(professional)O, a picto of a bucket seat with a big red cross through it leave very little doubt as to what message VW are trying to convey. My technical specialist colleagues agree. This picto is not about the type of harness, it's about the inherent weakness of the seat due to it being designed to articulate forward.
I'm not saying to you shouldn't use your harness but clearly VW don't endorse it. I have simply posted this to inform others considering harnesses who may have also retrofitted these same seats and therefore are unaware of VW's official position on the matter.
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