"Schroth Quickfit removable 4-point harness" By Tony Danza

[Top Cat]

  Another great review for this section. 


            

[tony_danza]

Why:

In my case, primarily for track days and ‘Ring trips. Could also be used for “spirited” driving.

A 4-point harness is THE best means of staying put in your seat during the manic action found around a track. Hi speed, hi G cornering can easily have you moving around in your seat, even with the beefiest of bolsters, so this keeps you firmly in place. It will reduce fatigue, assist your control of the car and potentially save you cracking your head on the window/B pillar in the event of you getting it out of shape.

I'll update this review with their full evaluation following my track day Oulton Park next week.

Sourcing

You can order them direct from:

Schroth’s website in Germany
TTS Roadsport Ring Vince, as they're not on their website
Rallynuts

Fitting

Utilises the car’s OEM seatbelt mountings and clips, so not only convenient, but goes in and out in a matter of seconds. Full TUV approval and full compatibility with your car’s existing crash protection systems, as you’d expect.

Other versions

There is no direct comparison in terms of it being a removable harness. A traditional 4-point would have to be hard-mounted to anchor points in the car and there’s not really a suitable solution to doing this in an ‘easily installed & removed’ way.

The only other thing to consider would be a CG Lock, but that’s an entirely different product.

Plus Points

The full security and control of a 4-point race harness that can be installed and removed in a matter of seconds to your OEM seats. Need I say more?
No need for buying those expensive ‘optional’ Recaro CS seats.. ha ha!

Minus Points

Cost @ £135 delivered compared to a fixed one at half the price. Although the same harness fits a multitude of VAG cars, so could cross over to your next purchase quite easily.

Summary

I was over the moon when I found these as I was going to take the plunge on a fixed 4-point, I’m sure if you want to use your car in a similar way I do mine, you’ll feel likewise.

I’ll post some pics of them fitted ASAP, but here’s the idea…

[chungster]

how do you fit the door side of the harness to provide a buckle attachment? screw in something??

[RedRobin]

....

Sounds great but do they fit these? : -



And also chungster's question about door side fixings.

[tony_danza]

Chungster, I've attached a picture - there's 2 'tabs' that remain a permanent fixture in the car, they bolt into the existing seatbelt mounting points.

RR - yes, you'll need to undo the shoulder straps to feed them through though.

[Top Cat]

Thanks Mike for the review. 

And thanks for helping me spend more money. I think i need one of these in my life, now my car is nearly ready for future track days. 

[john_o]

superb idea and write up 
all we need is a 'in situ tony pic with harness' to complete it 

[MAT ED30]

now i like them  defo gettting some of them 

[chungster]

and how much is a set of these??

can't see them on DT or TTS sites!

[RedRobin]

Chungster, I've attached a picture - there's 2 'tabs' that remain a permanent fixture in the car, they bolt into the existing seatbelt mounting points.

RR - yes, you'll need to undo the shoulder straps to feed them through though.

....Cheers, Mr D

Looks like they do them in red too!

[tony_danza]

I'll do some photos ASAP and a step by step fitting guide.

They're seemingly very hard to lay your mitts on at the moment.

I found a set at by chance as whilst searching and noticed someone had done a group buy on them a while back for the TTclub. Phoned and they had a set left over, so I snagged them.

Rallynuts never got back to my emails & don't pick up their phone seemingly to tell me if they had them in stock or they were an 'order only' item.
TTS don't list them on their website for some reason - call them.
Demon Tweeks are a Schroth agent, but don't list the Quickfit, again try calling

I think you're either going to have to order them direct from Germany, find someone prepared to order a load in, or just accept what you can find here in the UK, meaning you may not get the colour you want.

[RedRobin]

RR - yes, you'll need to undo the shoulder straps to feed them through though.

....I hate to tell you guys this but those like TC and myself will be better off with our Recaros with the belts slotting through. Forces on the easily removable headrest won't be quite as safe in some collision circumstances. However, by sliding the joint closer to the rear of the stock headrest, that factor should improve.

On the other hand, our Recaros don't have such effective 'headrests' and we don't have seat airbags.

[wigit]

friends of mine have used these for ages, will be curious to see how these work out given the GTI head rests have the lip down on the front which goes over the seat back and go over the shoulder, that said we have our cranked up a fair bit

[RedRobin]

friends of mine have used these for ages, will be curious to see how these work out given the GTI head rests have the lip down on the front which goes over the seat back and go over the shoulder, that said we have our cranked up a fair bit

....Unless you choose to crank up your GTI headrests yourself, I wouldn't be surprised if the Schroth belts will crank them up for you! They would surely 'crank' upwards as the belt is subjected to forces while driving - and then the belt straps would then become looser?

I'm just playing Devil's Advocate on this subject and am exploring what limitations these otherwise excellent Schroth belts may have.

[tony_danza]

Yep, you're absolutely right, Robin. Yours have the guide holes for a very good reason, to keep the straps on your shoulders.

I would only use these on the track no matter what seat I had, mainly for the reason on certain types of junction you have to lean forward to see. This would mean loosening the belts to enable you to move and if you were to be shunted, you wouldn't be safe.

In terms of track use:

They're still better than a 3 point seatbelt.
You MUST have them tight
You MUST guide them through the headrest poles to ensure they don't/can't slip over the shoulders of the seat. Doing this makes them no different to the style of seat below, and to be fair the headrest should be raised for most people anyway to work properly.

If it all were to go wrong though, I think a bit of belt marking on the neck would pale into insignificance compared to everything else.