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Cant rewind caliper!
« on: March 17, 2013, 04:25:11 pm »
Was just in the process of changing my rear brake pads and I bought a laser rewind tool from halfords. Did the drivers side rear fine, rewind the caliper in fairly easy.

I went to do passenger side rear and I can not for the life of me rewind it! The pads were literally worn to the metal and the caliper is wound right out but surely this shouldn't matter? Any fixes that anyone knows? Or am I in the market for a new caliper now? I was wondering if I needed to have a tool that would in the opposite way because my tool is only right handed thread but one side worked fine?

Thanks

Dan

P.S. We used a lot of force, it aint moving, just wondering if anything there is to do?
« Last Edit: March 17, 2013, 04:37:56 pm by Wallpaper_01 »

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Re: Cant rewind caliper!
« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2013, 04:41:52 pm »
Have you removed the expansion tank cap?

You might need to get some PlusGas mate, soak it for 20mins and try again, with your tyre iron as an extender on the rewind tool (go easy with it); they'll come free.

If they are really stuck, then they are probably ceased a good'un... I've just replaced all four calipers today, as both nearsides we're binding badly (they had done 112k so can't complain too much).

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Re: Cant rewind caliper!
« Reply #2 on: March 17, 2013, 08:22:12 pm »
Thanks, I think they are done :( Nothing working!

Will get a new caliper tomorrow, any idea on price? Also are they pretty easy to change? Never done it before.

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Re: Cant rewind caliper!
« Reply #3 on: March 17, 2013, 08:50:17 pm »
Brand new?  Pretty damn expensive (hundreds per caliper), I grabbed some MK6 rears with very low miles on the bay, they are slightly different, as the Mk6 does away with the hard pipe to the caliper and is soft from the main line to the caliper.  

If you've never done them before, it's probably easiest to grab a Mk5 rear for direct replacement (although it's not much longer to swap out that section).  Should be able to pick up a lowish mile mk5 caliper for about £40 or so. You don't need to change the carrier for the mk6 caliper or mk5 caliper to fit, but you can if you want to, I didn't bother - as I was in and out of the hail today.

It's worth noting a decent indy shouldn't charge a lot, perhaps £40-£60 per caliper.
If you do decide to do it, make sure you have some Plusgas or similar :happy2:

I grabbed a quote from VW for complete replacement of all calipers including labour... lol, are you sat down?: £1600!!  Did it myself (albeit with low mileage 2nd hand parts) for £200.  Well worth a waste of a Sunday.


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Re: Cant rewind caliper!
« Reply #4 on: March 17, 2013, 08:51:34 pm »
try loosening the bleed nipple a little and take the hydraulic resistance out of the equation as said above the reservoir cap can cause a restriction but if the load compensator valve is stuck then the fluid can't be pushed out of the caliper


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Re: Cant rewind caliper!
« Reply #5 on: March 17, 2013, 10:16:48 pm »
As the above post said but then if that fails it may be once you've got it off the car and your more comfortable with the tool the piston will screw back - using a evenly applied pressure!

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Re: Cant rewind caliper!
« Reply #6 on: March 18, 2013, 08:10:58 am »
Yeah maybe, getting a new caliper today but will try and screw in the old one once its off.

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Re: Cant rewind caliper!
« Reply #7 on: March 18, 2013, 08:39:00 am »
I had this the other week, caliper was seized solid and i bent my rewind tool, ended up getting a caliper from ECP, with 25% off and a surcharge deposit back think it was £70 in the end!

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Re: Cant rewind caliper!
« Reply #8 on: March 18, 2013, 08:43:27 am »
try loosening the bleed nipple a little and take the hydraulic resistance out of the equation as said above the reservoir cap can cause a restriction but if the load compensator valve is stuck then the fluid can't be pushed out of the caliper


Rob

This. The same thing happened to me Wallpaper, relieve the pressure before you fork out for a new caliper.
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Re: Cant rewind caliper!
« Reply #9 on: March 18, 2013, 11:43:36 am »
I had this the other week, caliper was seized solid and i bent my rewind tool, ended up getting a caliper from ECP, with 25% off and a surcharge deposit back think it was £70 in the end!

Was that a caliper copy from ECP? Just wondering whether it came with carriers and lines?

Most seem to be unpainted, but the Pagid, of which two rear types are available, are painted red, one which is like the Mk5 and one like the Mk6... for anyone thinking of these, it's worth echoing that the Mk6 type will require new lines to be fitted to a Mk5 car if they are anything like the standard Bosch ones. (the standard "soft" line has a slightly different size connector on one end).

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Re: Cant rewind caliper!
« Reply #10 on: March 18, 2013, 11:44:49 am »
It was just a caliper, no lines or carriers, the 2 that are on the website one has a 38mm piston, one has a 41mm, i went for the 41mm on my jetta! It came painted silver.

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Re: Cant rewind caliper!
« Reply #11 on: March 18, 2013, 11:52:49 am »
It was just a caliper, no lines or carriers, the 2 that are on the website one has a 38mm piston, one has a 41mm, i went for the 41mm on my jetta! It came painted silver.

The 41 mm piston does exist then!  I thought this was only on the VW Caddy.. hence the Caddy mod for the rears.
Did it specify a brand mate?  Very interesting. :happy2:

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Re: Cant rewind caliper!
« Reply #12 on: March 18, 2013, 12:47:38 pm »
Sure it was pagid! check the website, click on the picture and scroll down, tells you the piston size

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Re: Cant rewind caliper!
« Reply #13 on: March 18, 2013, 01:15:21 pm »
These the puppies:
http://www.eurocarparts.com/ecp/c/Volkswagen_Golf_2.0_2006/p/car-parts/brakes/brake-hydraulics/brake-caliper/?133442910&1&636127a030175c8371abb1c5b7ef2c974eda61b7&000048

Look exactly the same as the Mk6 callys, albeit unpainted - don't suppose you measured the piston?

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Re: Cant rewind caliper!
« Reply #14 on: March 18, 2013, 02:27:02 pm »
Had one picked up today, got £35 knocked off if I take back the old one which was unexpected. Cant wait to get it on, got someone coming to look at it on Wed so need it perfect! :D