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Re: R-Tech Hmmm Revo???
« Reply #60 on: April 08, 2013, 08:48:09 pm »
Be good to see some R-Tech cars run at Pod at some point (especially Stage 2+ ones). I know Nick and his customers often run there, but most of them are Mk4's and mental project cars..

Nick - Have any of your customers run a Stage 2+ Ed30 DSG there yet? If so, what sort of results were they achieving?

Fingers crossed there will be a few running this year at pod and inters, I had a customer run a ED30 stage1 precat removed and DSG map which was in mid 13s.  I cannot remember exact time, but it was at last years http://www.xfest.co.uk/index.php in which my mate won fastest in class and managed to get a free passanger ride in a 2 seat drag car... lucky bas!!  He runs the scooter mag which sponsors the event.   

Had a stage2+ ed30 DSG run a pod but with never had clean runs and managed 13.1-13.2s 106-109mph, most my other stage2+ customers ran at GTI inters and manged to get sh*t times but manged to wheel spin most of the 1/4..

infact found the link to my old  post.   http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,9244.msg511874.html#msg511874

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Re: R-Tech Hmmm Revo???
« Reply #61 on: April 08, 2013, 08:48:21 pm »
Not 100% 1:1 ratio  linear   :wink:

So the only way you would know that is if you have been spying at their maps  :wink:  :innocent:

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Re: R-Tech Hmmm Revo???
« Reply #62 on: April 08, 2013, 08:56:59 pm »
Just driving up the road, I can feel for the throttle ped mapping.  I had a member from here pop in last week fro a chat with his ed30 dsg stage2+ wmi  x tuners map with linear throttle, and the first thing I noticed was the map was only linear over x rpm and x load that was after a 5 mins test drive.  The lower rpm ranges it still felt like 30-40% at 10% pedal.  But some  like it like this it makes the drive a little lazy and eaiser to pull off junctions.

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Re: R-Tech Hmmm Revo???
« Reply #63 on: April 08, 2013, 08:58:07 pm »
Not 100% 1:1 ratio  linear   :wink:

So the only way you would know that is if you have been spying at their maps  :wink:  :innocent:

If your good at cracking encyptions then we can have a nose....  lol
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Re: R-Tech Hmmm Revo???
« Reply #64 on: April 08, 2013, 10:29:16 pm »
Logging TPP (throttle pedal position) vs ATP (actual throttle position) will also allow a comparison to see if its a direct linear ratio.


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Re: R-Tech Hmmm Revo???
« Reply #65 on: April 08, 2013, 10:39:13 pm »
Logging TPP (throttle pedal position) vs ATP (actual throttle position) will also allow a comparison to see if its a direct linear ratio.



What block is that on?

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Re: R-Tech Hmmm Revo???
« Reply #66 on: April 08, 2013, 10:40:53 pm »
Logging TPP (throttle pedal position) vs ATP (actual throttle position) will also allow a comparison to see if its a direct linear ratio.


:happy2:

Id be keen to see what the actual ratio the likes of REVO/Shark/APR/Jabba are delivering with their linear maps then if its not a 1:1

Whats the stock ratio?

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Re: R-Tech Hmmm Revo???
« Reply #67 on: April 08, 2013, 10:41:23 pm »
Ill go and check mine now... need the block number though

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Re: R-Tech Hmmm Revo???
« Reply #68 on: April 08, 2013, 11:06:10 pm »
I'm sure a man of your calibre can find it Rich.

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Re: R-Tech Hmmm Revo???
« Reply #69 on: April 08, 2013, 11:07:35 pm »
Theres 100 items with throttle in the description..... 

Why dont they have a search function!!  :fighting:

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Re: R-Tech Hmmm Revo???
« Reply #70 on: April 09, 2013, 11:46:53 am »
Be good to see some R-Tech cars run at Pod at some point (especially Stage 2+ ones). I know Nick and his customers often run there, but most of them are Mk4's and mental project cars..

Nick - Have any of your customers run a Stage 2+ Ed30 DSG there yet? If so, what sort of results were they achieving?

Fingers crossed there will be a few running this year at pod and inters, I had a customer run a ED30 stage1 precat removed and DSG map which was in mid 13s.  I cannot remember exact time, but it was at last years http://www.xfest.co.uk/index.php in which my mate won fastest in class and managed to get a free passanger ride in a 2 seat drag car... lucky bas!!  He runs the scooter mag which sponsors the event.   

Had a stage2+ ed30 DSG run a pod but with never had clean runs and managed 13.1-13.2s 106-109mph, most my other stage2+ customers ran at GTI inters and manged to get sh*t times but manged to wheel spin most of the 1/4..

infact found the link to my old  post.   http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,9244.msg511874.html#msg511874



Hopefully there will be a few running this year @ Pod then.. Be interesting to see what they achieve (especially terminal speed, which normally reflects more on the car's power).

106-109mph is some way off Revo's though, that's Stage 1/2 terriotory...  :confused: Most DSG Stage 2+ cars normally achieve somewhere in the region of 112-114mph. Like you say though, that's only one car that has run..
Are there any R-tech cars going to Spring Fest?

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Re: R-Tech Hmmm Revo???
« Reply #71 on: April 09, 2013, 11:53:39 am »
I know someone who will be running a decatted stage 2 R-tech with DSG map.  :happy2:

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Re: R-Tech Hmmm Revo???
« Reply #72 on: April 09, 2013, 11:57:05 am »
If I had a pound for every time I've seen a tuner claim their cars are going to break land speed records on the 1/4, only to spectacularly fail with a list of excuses as long as my arm......

REVO deliver what they claim, I don't think anyone was ever proven otherwise? When you map thousands of cars, I think it's fairly easy to give a mean average as a sales pitch.

I've no doubt Nick puts a lot of hard work and expertise into his maps, and they deliver what he claims too. To have them perform is the ultimate test and I look forward to seeing them do so - however I think his reply inferring 'other' tuners are XYZ lacks a little class. Concentrate on your own business, never rubbish another's.
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Re: R-Tech Hmmm Revo???
« Reply #73 on: April 09, 2013, 12:01:22 pm »
Ill be running mine again...14.14 last year with a boot full of gear.

Will be interesting to see if the 22bhp peak gain with the evoms makes much difference to the time

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Re: R-Tech Hmmm Revo???
« Reply #74 on: April 09, 2013, 12:34:19 pm »
If I had a pound for every time I've seen a tuner claim their cars are going to break land speed records on the 1/4, only to spectacularly fail with a list of excuses as long as my arm......

REVO deliver what they claim, I don't think anyone was ever proven otherwise? When you map thousands of cars, I think it's fairly easy to give a mean average as a sales pitch.

I've no doubt Nick puts a lot of hard work and expertise into his maps, and they deliver what he claims too. To have them perform is the ultimate test and I look forward to seeing them do so - however I think his reply inferring 'other' tuners are XYZ lacks a little class. Concentrate on your own business, never rubbish another's.

Not rubbishing, anyone if you read my posts.  I was the first tuner in the UK of offer and promote linear throttle mapping many moons back, before any other company mentioned or promoted it.  But since then lots of companies have done there versions of a linear thottle map,  but non are 1:1 ratio like the original setup we started doing.    I am point it out that our linear map is nothing like what other tuners are selling as linear.  To me linear means linear 1:1 progression.

stock KFPED maps are like 44% throttle at 2000rpm = around 65-77% load demand

1:1 linear KFPED which I offer will be  44% throttle = 44% load request at all rpms

Others I have drove seem still have the stock kfped requests low down and only above 2700-3000rpm them seem to go linear.


If i have a unique style over others I think I am allowed to promote the fact,  same with the TIV mapping we offer we are the only tuner offering this map add on in the world, but it wont be long before others try there own version and try to call it TIV mapping.  But lucky for me I have a letter from the Interllectual property office with the word TIV as a trade mark to me.  This should stop the confusion when others try to do there versions of the TIV mapping.

All R-Tech maps are wrote unique to how the customer wants them, back on 2009 the issues and gripe with customer was the throttle was like an on off switch and could we fix it?  same last year with the TIV mapping a customer pointing out an issue and I spent a few months working on a solution, which I now call TIV and add it to all of my customers maps.   Aech day new mapping methods are being found from when we are LIVE emulation real time mapping on the dyno, these finding and methods get added to our base maps at least once a week.     

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« Last Edit: April 09, 2013, 01:10:38 pm by R-tech-Nick »
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