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Fitted cruise control but...
« on: April 01, 2013, 04:29:54 pm »
The guy who fitted it said that because I have the famous g201 brake pressure sensor problem the CC Won't work.

Does anyone know a way around it?

He said he can get me a brand new abs pump from poland and fit it for around £200.




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Re: Fitted cruise control but...
« Reply #1 on: April 01, 2013, 05:10:22 pm »
did he fit the wire?
what steering controller have you got?

I know if there is a fault with the brake pedal switch it won't work
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Re: Re: Fitted cruise control but...
« Reply #2 on: April 01, 2013, 05:42:35 pm »
He said the wire is already there. Im not sure what controller I have. Can I check it with vcds?

We were talking about mfsw's and he did mention that I would need a newer version of the controller.



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Re: Re: Fitted cruise control but...
« Reply #3 on: April 01, 2013, 06:10:28 pm »
He said the wire is already there. Im not sure what controller I have. Can I check it with vcds?

We were talking about mfsw's and he did mention that I would need a newer version of the controller.



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Do an autoscan and post up address 16

in your vin is your car a 2006 MY?

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Re: Fitted cruise control but...
« Reply #4 on: April 01, 2013, 07:26:35 pm »
hi eddie

this is from a scan ive just done now


Address 01: Engine        Labels: 03G-906-016-BKC.lbl
   Part No SW: 03G 906 016 CB    HW: 028 101 190 0
   Component: R4 1,9L EDC G000SG  6176 
   Revision: 12345678    Serial number: VWZ7Z0E2046235
   Coding: 0000072
   Shop #: WSC 00046 412 00000
   VCID: 65C5B5A7D045

1 Fault Found:
16952 - Cruise Control Switch (E45): Implausible Signal 
            P0568 - 000 -  -
             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 0 /min
                    Torque: 0.0 Nm
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Load: 0.0 %
                    Voltage: 12.24 V
                    Bin. Bits: 00101100
                    Bin. Bits: 00000000
                    (no units): 1.0

Readiness: 0 0 1 1 1

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK60-F.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 907 379 K
   Component: ESP FRONT MK60      0104 
   Coding: 0021121
   Shop #: WSC 00046 412 00000
   VCID: 3A7F36DB097B

2 Faults Found:
00810 - Sensor 1/2 for Brake Pressure
            005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation
01435 - Brake Pressure Sensor 1 (G201)
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit




those are the faults



Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 F    HW: 1K0 953 549 F
   Component: Lenksäulenmodul 021 0050 
   Coding: 0000042
   Shop #: WSC 00046 412 24576
   VCID: 356525E72065

No fault code found.


thats address 16


is it worth me getting a new abs pump put in or get it rebuilt by someone like sinspeed or bba reman

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Re: Fitted cruise control but...
« Reply #5 on: April 01, 2013, 07:34:49 pm »
are you sure the wire is there?

looks like no communication between the ECU and the steering module
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Re: Fitted cruise control but...
« Reply #6 on: April 01, 2013, 07:43:31 pm »
are you sure the wire is there?

looks like no communication between the ECU and the steering module

When I called him before going to him he said he has spares of those wires so if needed he will put it in. When he took the controller off he looked at the connector and said the wire is there.

The cc icon comes on the dash when switched on but a second later it switches off. It also now comes on when ignition is on so I'm guessing there must be communication between ecu and controller . Is that right?

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Re: Fitted cruise control but...
« Reply #7 on: April 01, 2013, 07:51:11 pm »
are you sure the wire is there?

looks like no communication between the ECU and the steering module

When I called him before going to him he said he has spares of those wires so if needed he will put it in. When he took the controller off he looked at the connector and said the wire is there.

The cc icon comes on the dash when switched on but a second later it switches off. It also now comes on when ignition is on so I'm guessing there must be communication between ecu and controller . Is that right?

Thanks ed




2005 = no wire unless your car is MY2006

if you only code the steering module the green light will come on

the fault in the engine suggests no communication
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Re: Fitted cruise control but...
« Reply #8 on: April 01, 2013, 07:53:36 pm »
http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/16952/P0568/001384

doesn't suggest anything to do with the abs pump

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Re: Re: Fitted cruise control but...
« Reply #9 on: April 01, 2013, 07:58:18 pm »
Oh crap! Is it Easy to put the wire in?

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Re: Fitted cruise control but...
« Reply #10 on: April 01, 2013, 08:01:12 pm »
I'd try everything before the pump - they're serious wonga.

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Re: Re: Fitted cruise control but...
« Reply #11 on: April 01, 2013, 08:31:56 pm »
Ok just had a look from the inside of the car behind the little pocket cupboard.

Heres what I've found.






Is that the right plug connector?

A bit dark and cold to look at the connector from the top of the engine

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Re: Fitted cruise control but...
« Reply #12 on: April 01, 2013, 08:49:46 pm »
as I first said, the wire is not there

time to find someone who knows their stuff

goes in the blue plug pin 4

then pin 13 on the steering module
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Re: Re: Fitted cruise control but...
« Reply #13 on: April 01, 2013, 08:54:50 pm »
Thanks Eddie.  Spoke to the guy just now and he said he will fit the wire in for me.

But he "a million percent" claims the cruise control still won't work because of the abs pump fault. 

We'll see

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Re: Re: Fitted cruise control but...
« Reply #14 on: April 01, 2013, 09:01:16 pm »
Thanks Eddie.  Spoke to the guy just now and he said he will fit the wire in for me.

But he "a million percent" claims the cruise control still won't work because of the abs pump fault. 

We'll see

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without the wire it won't work 100%
based on his oversight on the wire he might have well said don't bother fitting the stalk as it won't work because of the pump.

I haven't seen a car with the G201 fault when I have fitted cruise, so couldn't say. I would bet that it does work once the wire is fitted
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