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Re: Dsg vs Manual - help make my mind up
« Reply #15 on: April 10, 2013, 05:25:20 pm »
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Re: Dsg vs Manual - help make my mind up
« Reply #16 on: April 10, 2013, 05:49:54 pm »
If only tdi's had dsg gearboxes.

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Re: Re: Re: Dsg vs Manual - help make my mind up
« Reply #17 on: April 10, 2013, 05:52:06 pm »
If only tdi's had dsg gearboxes.

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Re: Dsg vs Manual - help make my mind up
« Reply #18 on: April 10, 2013, 06:09:39 pm »
If only tdi's had dsg gearboxes.

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thought only gtis had them

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They do but none I've seen over here had flappy paddles :)
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Re: Dsg vs Manual - help make my mind up
« Reply #19 on: April 10, 2013, 06:35:51 pm »
I drove 2 manuals, loved them and set my heart on owning one when my then car was off finance. When i came to buy there was only 1 on the Island which was the dsg 5 door in red (Initially it was going to be a black 3dr manual) and fell in love with the dsg.

Personally I'd never go back as its got the comfort of an auto for daily with the fun factor of a manual but with racecar gears / flappy paddles  :smiley:

Oh and the dsg 'fart' is far too addictive, so much so i had to buy an exhaust to amplify it a bit  :laugh:

Edit: I'd drive both though, some people wont like it.  :happy2:


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Had a manual GTI before, loved it. Then got a DSG Ed30... it took a while to get used to it but when you do its fantastic! Best of both worlds... auto when in traffic or chilled morning commute. Into manual mode for some fun  :laugh:     

You'll get addicted to the DSG Fart too. Have to agree, a nice non-res exhaust really does make a difference and brings back the feeling of being connected with the car.

I don't think I'd ever go back to manual to be honest. Not in London anyway!!!

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Re: Dsg vs Manual - help make my mind up
« Reply #20 on: April 10, 2013, 11:01:50 pm »
Be careful, I was seduced by the flappy paddles and bought a DSG Ed30.

Seemed great at first and it's definitely faster than the manual. But, and it's a big BUT, it's so boring and un-involving! In the end I just used to put it in D (for dull) and drove it like that. Sorry to all you DSG lovers, but it's just not 'real' driving.

Get a manual and don't be seduced like I was.  :confused:

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Re: Dsg vs Manual - help make my mind up
« Reply #21 on: April 11, 2013, 05:42:23 am »
dsg is a cracking bit of kit grate for town driving and good for race car feel smoother changes etc but very costly if not been serviced regularly eg oil/filter changes on the box. manual is grate for all the real drivers but when u toy with motors maps etc u need to sepnt the cash on the right kit.

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Re: Dsg vs Manual - help make my mind up
« Reply #22 on: April 11, 2013, 09:46:55 am »
cheers for all the comments guys, reckon i am still swaying towards a manual, but wont hurt to test drive a DSG and see what i think.

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Re: Dsg vs Manual - help make my mind up
« Reply #23 on: April 11, 2013, 01:19:31 pm »
Im in the same boat as you mate

I want to get a scirocco R , my local dealer only had a GT TSI in stock at the time in DSG so i took it for a blast and have to say i was sooooooo dissapointed.
My biggest fear was realised straight away , that its like driving a go cart , jerky pull offs , very hard to pull away smoothly , with a manual you can control how slow or how quick you want to pull away.

TBH the gearbox in the Gt was pants , not smooth at all and a few times it couldnt make its mind up what gear it wanted to be in so some delay.

Any way test drove the R a week later and have to say total different drive in the gearbox , smooth as you like no hesitation , still the go cart pull away but maybe getting used to the throttle position will be better?

but this is the part i hate , i got into my manual Cupra after and had a lazy drive home , didnt feel i could do that in the DSG :(

Bear in mind my test drives were only about 45 mins each so maybe not a conclusive test but i really wanted to like DSG !
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Re: Dsg vs Manual - help make my mind up
« Reply #24 on: April 11, 2013, 01:42:29 pm »
Im in the same boat as you mate

I want to get a scirocco R , my local dealer only had a GT TSI in stock at the time in DSG so i took it for a blast and have to say i was sooooooo dissapointed.
My biggest fear was realised straight away , that its like driving a go cart , jerky pull offs , very hard to pull away smoothly , with a manual you can control how slow or how quick you want to pull away.

TBH the gearbox in the Gt was pants , not smooth at all and a few times it couldnt make its mind up what gear it wanted to be in so some delay.

Any way test drove the R a week later and have to say total different drive in the gearbox , smooth as you like no hesitation , still the go cart pull away but maybe getting used to the throttle position will be better?

but this is the part i hate , i got into my manual Cupra after and had a lazy drive home , didnt feel i could do that in the DSG :(

Bear in mind my test drives were only about 45 mins each so maybe not a conclusive test but i really wanted to like DSG !

Jerky pull offs usually means there is something wrong with the box.

You can have the laziest drive of your life in D mode if you want :grin:

I have DSG and love it but do sometimes feel there is a slight lack of involvement. I think the DSG remap would help so might look in to that.
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Re: Dsg vs Manual - help make my mind up
« Reply #25 on: April 11, 2013, 04:18:55 pm »
If only tdi's had dsg gearboxes.

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thought only gtis had them

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They do but none I've seen over here had flappy paddles :)

Just change the steering wheel i think!


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Re: Dsg vs Manual - help make my mind up
« Reply #26 on: April 11, 2013, 04:20:11 pm »
DSG all day i had a similar problem
Before buying so glad i went with DSG. Quicker smoother gear changes, good for traffic and the dsg fart is addictive. Add a milltek tbe to the mix and its even better. And with a dsg box you dont have to worry about uprating the clutch if you decide on a remap. Also id recommend mapping the dsg box too!

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Re: Dsg vs Manual - help make my mind up
« Reply #27 on: April 11, 2013, 04:22:37 pm »
manual for me  :happy2:

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Re: Dsg vs Manual - help make my mind up
« Reply #28 on: April 11, 2013, 04:38:53 pm »
My biggest fear was realised straight away , that its like driving a go cart , jerky pull offs , very hard to pull away smoothly , with a manual you can control how slow or how quick you want to pull away.

Exactly the problem I had with the DSG. It took me about a month to get used to applying just the right throttle for a smooth pull away. And even then I didn't feel I was in control of the car. At traffic lights it felt like I would ram the car in front if I gave it too much right foot. Ended up getting left behind on many occasions!
With a clutch you are in complete control all the time.

Sold the Ed30 after 3 months and bought a manual Cupra R. Happy again now! :happy2:


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Re: Dsg vs Manual - help make my mind up
« Reply #29 on: April 11, 2013, 05:13:55 pm »
DSG all the time if possible.

People moaning about jerky pull offs and not being able to control it at lights....you need to treat it like a dsg and not a manual.