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Re: Thoughts On Rtech and the TIV map away from Bluefin Superchips
« Reply #30 on: April 13, 2013, 09:22:01 am »
Don't get an aggressive torque map to preserve the oem clutch, it's the sudden change in torque that breaks traction too.

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Re: Thoughts On Rtech and the TIV map away from Bluefin Superchips
« Reply #31 on: April 13, 2013, 09:32:02 am »
Don't get an aggressive torque map to preserve the oem clutch, it's the sudden change in torque that breaks traction too.

and it's for this reason I would change my Revo map. I think it's way to aggressive and getting the power down can be a real problem if not controlled correctly  :scared: 

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Re: Thoughts On Rtech and the TIV map away from Bluefin Superchips
« Reply #32 on: April 13, 2013, 11:54:41 am »
Does the k03 and k04 not use the same clutch?

If they did would stage 2 on a k03 not  still be as safe as a k04 on stage 1?

I have had a bluefin stage 2 map for almost 10k miles on a k03  now without any clutch issues.

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Re: Thoughts On Rtech and the TIV map away from Bluefin Superchips
« Reply #33 on: April 13, 2013, 12:03:22 pm »
Rhetorical question I'm sure.
Same clutch / brakes / exhaust / hpfp / suspension etc. etc. Just different trim/rims/injectors/turbo - the Edition 30 really should've shared more components with the S3 / TT (e.g. Brakes / IC / Wishbones etc.etc.)
I have Bluefin Stage 2 K03 and the clutch has been fine for ages (touch wood) - although sometimes I do get a hesitation at 4k-5k RPM, think this might be down to the way BF requests too much from the OEM HPFP.

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Re: Thoughts On Rtech and the TIV map away from Bluefin Superchips
« Reply #34 on: April 13, 2013, 12:29:47 pm »
Would love to see what Nik could do with my hardware... :-(
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Re: Thoughts On Rtech and the TIV map away from Bluefin Superchips
« Reply #35 on: April 13, 2013, 02:10:50 pm »
Good review and credit to Nick and the team,I had my GTI mapped by them 2 yrs ago and still cant fault it.

Great service by very Knowledgeable guys. :happy2:

Oh my Ko3 was pulling 242hp,transformed the car completley.

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Re: Thoughts On Rtech and the TIV map away from Bluefin Superchips
« Reply #36 on: April 13, 2013, 09:40:57 pm »
Would love to see what Nik could do with my hardware... :-(

You need to get In contact Dom. He is adamant with your S3 intercooler will make for good gains and has recommended that i should install the same  :scared:

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Re: Thoughts On Rtech and the TIV map away from Bluefin Superchips
« Reply #37 on: April 13, 2013, 10:54:13 pm »
Wow what can I say!!

Absolutely blown away with Niki's TIV mapping, and the difference the car is now over what it was..
if anyone is thinking should I or shouldn't I... my answer is yes.. You should. :happy2:

Thankyou again Nik and Ben for doing this for me. Another Very satisfied Customer :drinking:

Good times.  I must admit, if i come back to a 2.0TFSI, which i think I will at some point because its a great engine/chassis combo, id be extremely tempted to let R-TEC loose on my car.  

Im thinking an R-Tec Custom job on a K03 lump with a K04 turbo upgrade, HPFP upgrade and the pre-cat delete from the OEM downpipe with nothing else, pure stealth performance.

Have you got any switchability?

I've been considering bluefin lately, one of the main reasons is because I'm worried about clutch slip because I'm manual, due to the fact that I know a stage 1 bluefin is subtle at 240hp and 259torques, would there be away of mapping it to more 250 and 280torques with out it destroying the clutch with a r-tech map it'll have a panel filter and precat delete?(I know its not just about the figures and I won't be going any more than stage 1)

This was mine running a Bluefin Stage 1, really smooth and OEM like in delivery.  The peak torque figure makes it sound better than it is, but realistically, its only marginally more power torque than stock across the rev range and that initial hump for 1000rpm essentially hides the fact that the midrange is poor.  I changed after a friend in a vRS did a pull against me in a REVO car and literally drove off as if i was trying to pull away in 5th or something.



Just goes to show about what I've always said about Supperchips being a poor tuner.

Pretty sure i read on here that the guy who used to write software for superchips now works at REVO.  Not sure if theres any truth in that though.  But hey, never let truth get in the way of a good rumour  :grin:


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Re: Thoughts On Rtech and the TIV map away from Bluefin Superchips
« Reply #38 on: April 13, 2013, 11:58:07 pm »
^^ I think it may have been Niki that told me that  :grin:
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Re: Thoughts On Rtech and the TIV map away from Bluefin Superchips
« Reply #39 on: April 14, 2013, 08:04:33 am »
I've had a quick blast in a friends 07 Audi TT drop top which was bluefin'd he said it was running 240hp, but low in the rev range it didn't feel much different to my standard GTI but above 5000rpm it was so much faster was really impressed i wasn't blown away but i liked the facted it was risk free and can be removed.

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Re: Thoughts On Rtech and the TIV map away from Bluefin Superchips
« Reply #40 on: April 15, 2013, 09:07:40 am »
I've had a quick blast in a friends 07 Audi TT drop top which was bluefin'd he said it was running 240hp, but low in the rev range it didn't feel much different to my standard GTI but above 5000rpm it was so much faster was really impressed i wasn't blown away

Thats my experience as well.  But the reality s due to the lack of midrange you dont notice the remap on the K03 in daily driving, unless your driving like a tool everywhere.

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Re: Thoughts On Rtech and the TIV map away from Bluefin Superchips
« Reply #41 on: April 23, 2013, 05:23:01 pm »
Only just got round to reading this...

Nice write up Stevie boy  :happy2: sounds like R-Tech have another very happy customer to there collection and it looks like a lovely power band to boot :smiley:

The big question now though - what will it make on JKM's rollers?  :scared: :party: :signLOL:

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Re: Thoughts On Rtech and the TIV map away from Bluefin Superchips
« Reply #42 on: April 23, 2013, 05:26:00 pm »
86bhp

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Re: Thoughts On Rtech and the TIV map away from Bluefin Superchips
« Reply #43 on: April 23, 2013, 05:29:17 pm »
dyno being prepared as we speak


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Re: Thoughts On Rtech and the TIV map away from Bluefin Superchips
« Reply #44 on: April 23, 2013, 05:33:48 pm »
dyno being prepared as we speak



 :signLOL: :signLOL:

If Steve does give it a run on JKM's dyno it would be interesting to see another over lay of the 2 maps again, just this time on an independent dyno. BUT..... what figures will he believe are right?  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Assuming of course that he loses 30-40bhp when entering their car park like everyone else usually does..   :signLOL:
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