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Re: Quaife ATB Diff....
« Reply #60 on: February 28, 2009, 12:49:15 pm »
Quote from: gazbutmk5gti on February 27, 2009, 10:22:34 pm

luca have you seen nobber is sellin his V3's


....Why? Does he find the ride too hard for his (or his missus) liking?
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Re: Quaife ATB Diff....
« Reply #61 on: February 28, 2009, 01:09:30 pm »
Hes changing his car red :wink:
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Re: Quaife ATB Diff....
« Reply #62 on: February 28, 2009, 03:13:59 pm »
Quote from: jonnyc on February 27, 2009, 09:54:12 pm
Quote from: RedRobin on February 27, 2009, 09:50:35 pm
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That's very helpful to know, Jonny :happy2:

I've got zero experience of any race plate diff but I certainly appreciate how the Quaife works on uneven surfaces and sudden changes of direction or change of camber, and it feels very reassuring and without any dramas. As a road driver, that's what I think I prefer.

I've now driven 3 different Mk5 GTI's each fitted with the Quaife (2 DSG and 1 Manual) and find the Quaife equally effective in all of them and in a variety of road surface conditions due to weather.

Dont get me wrong, a plate diff would be miles more effective than the ATB diff round a track, but how often can / do you get any where near the limit on the road

With a plate diff, you need to maintain it regularly.  The Plates need renewing, timescale according to use.  Not really viable, unless pockets are very deep.  I was told they are a lot harsher in operation too.

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Re: Quaife ATB Diff....
« Reply #63 on: February 28, 2009, 03:47:08 pm »
Quote from: stokeballoon on February 28, 2009, 03:13:59 pm

With a plate diff, you need to maintain it regularly.  The Plates need renewing, timescale according to use.  Not really viable, unless pockets are very deep.  I was told they are a lot harsher in operation too.


....According what Wavetrac manufacturer Autotech say on VWvotex forum:

"You will not need to change the friction plates. The friction plates will last a very very long time. If it does wear, it will not affect the performance of the differential as it will still create friction againts the house like a standard torque biasing differential. The real improvement is the "wave" gear in the differential which creates a no-load biasing ratio."

So perhaps the need to renew plates is no longer a consideration, but Jonny's experience suggests that they are not best used in a road car, even a very fast road car. The young Yankee dudes with their highly modded GTI's won't be phased though!

The Quaife ATB version is surprisingly (to me) smooooth, regardless of the host car's power. The VWR 330bhp Red Temptress is totally comfortable with the Quaife. In fact I'm sure she'd be much more of a handful without it!

Okay, I'm singing the Quaife's praises without the personal experience of other alternatives, but it's not very difficult to see how well and smoothly it performs on a fast FWD road car. You don't notice it's there unless you are both 'making progress' and focussed on your driving and valuable feedback from the car.

I think it was you, Dave, and also implied by Jonny in this thread, that it's the driver rather than the car which has limits (Mark at VWR has also said this) and it's safer to have a car which can perform beyond your limits - Providing of course that you also apply the addage of "With Power Comes Responsibility". I hope I'm making sense as I just spill these thoughts out.

I've said it before and I still think it's true that every FWD car of 2.0litres and more, really needs a diff - Even VW acknowledge this by their addition of their electronic diff on the Mk6, and Renault, and the new Ford RS with an ATB Quaife.

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Re: Quaife ATB Diff....
« Reply #64 on: March 18, 2009, 09:46:26 pm »
  Picked up  The Falcon ( my GTI)  today after getting a Quaife ATB fitted. First impressions are very positive. The Falcon's running Revo st 2  so traction has been an issue, but with the new diff can  now exit roundabouts in 2nd on full throttle!!  :jumpmove: 
  Today was bone dry though so am looking forward to some rain for once so I can fully test the diff's potential.  :jumping:
   
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Re: Quaife ATB Diff....
« Reply #65 on: March 18, 2009, 10:04:46 pm »
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Great isn't it! :happy2: 8) :happy2:

Where did you get yours fitted?
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Re: Quaife ATB Diff....
« Reply #66 on: March 18, 2009, 10:22:50 pm »
 ^^ Yeah, I'm loving it. :laugh:
  Got it fitted by Kenneth Brown Motor Engineering here in Glasgow. He was recommended to me and I was impressed by both his customer service and some of the other cars my golf was sharing work space with.  Today he had a Gallardo Superlegga in the workshop!  :love: :drool: :love:
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Re: Quaife ATB Diff....
« Reply #67 on: March 18, 2009, 10:26:31 pm »
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Great! Sounds good for those located far north.

Manual or DSG? (sorry for all the questions)
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Re: Quaife ATB Diff....
« Reply #68 on: March 18, 2009, 10:29:29 pm »
^^ It's a manual so a much simpler  job. Although I got the impression he would be happy to fit a diff on a DSG car.
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Re: Quaife ATB Diff....
« Reply #69 on: April 04, 2009, 05:08:30 pm »
how much have you guys paid for this lsd inc fitting? mines a manual, i want to get a figure so i can get a price from someone nearer to me
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Re: Quaife ATB Diff....
« Reply #70 on: April 04, 2009, 05:14:54 pm »
Quote from: BMX on April 04, 2009, 05:08:30 pm

how much have you guys paid for this lsd inc fitting? mines a manual, i want to get a figure so i can get a price from someone nearer to me


....It's all there in my original post if you read it. And it obviously depends whether you have Manual or DSG.

Budget £1,500 for DSG and about £1,200 for Manual but choose carefully and not just on price.
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Re: Quaife ATB Diff....
« Reply #71 on: April 04, 2009, 05:37:30 pm »
ok cheers, i really am gonna have to pull my finger out and get this done. i had £1500 going round my mind but £1200 sounds excellent. nearer to a grand, iam trying to convince my self  :wink:
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Re: Quaife ATB Diff....
« Reply #72 on: April 04, 2009, 05:54:27 pm »
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If you plan to keep your GTI and occasionally enjoy spirited driving when conditions safely allow (or do track days), then it's a great mod and one you will not regret.

The trouble is that it works even better with well setup coilover suspension and so goes the slippery slope of modding - Beware!

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Re: Quaife ATB Diff....
« Reply #73 on: April 05, 2009, 09:00:11 pm »
 ^^ Mine came out at pretty much dead on £1200. That picture brainwashes me a little more each time I see it. :jumping:
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Re: Quaife ATB Diff....
« Reply #74 on: May 07, 2009, 09:43:46 pm »
Had Quaiffe's in my previous 2 Golf...brilliant.

Will wait and see how my car progresses after re map and WALK.

I may head straight into APR Stage 2 with APR fuel pump....so much to do though :scared:
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