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Re: forge twintake air intake available end Aug 09
« Reply #105 on: September 03, 2009, 11:15:43 pm »
the other problem with comparison will be  all cars will act differently. ideally the best way to compare would be to do logs with just 1 car, but trialling the various different intakes and logging. this way any other variables are removed

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Re: forge twintake air intake available end Aug 09
« Reply #106 on: September 03, 2009, 11:21:04 pm »
the company that produce my intake provide info on their site comparing the std system to their own.

http://212.227.84.30/Codered/CR2.0TFSISportfilterengl.pdf

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Re: forge twintake air intake available end Aug 09
« Reply #107 on: September 03, 2009, 11:30:13 pm »

the company that produce my intake provide info on their site comparing the std system to their own.

http://212.227.84.30/Codered/CR2.0TFSISportfilterengl.pdf


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Re: forge twintake air intake available end Aug 09
« Reply #108 on: September 03, 2009, 11:47:15 pm »
I've just installed my forge Twintake... (needed to sort out a cpl of issues with Forge - hence the delay).
No pics so far - but fit is pretty good.

Noise on idle is the same as standard and in the workshop isnt noticably different to the Carbon Speed/Pipercorss I had before!
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Re: forge twintake air intake available end Aug 09
« Reply #109 on: September 04, 2009, 12:57:41 am »
JESUS!! 475 from HKS??!! who was that through, HKS singapore are based next door to my warehouse in singapore so may get someone to pop over and have a look, i was interested in importing HKS stuff for VAG cars as its very hard to get bits in the UK, you should see and hear the HKS tbe!! OMG  :drool: :drool: back box was only 370 last time i was there aswell!!


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Re: forge twintake air intake available end Aug 09
« Reply #110 on: September 04, 2009, 07:50:41 am »
the other problem with comparison will be  all cars will act differently. ideally the best way to compare would be to do logs with just 1 car, but trialling the various different intakes and logging. this way any other variables are removed

I think you would want 2 cars, but test all the filters on both. One OEM car, one modified car and then see which ones make a difference in the each configuration to see if there are any significant differences. Quite a lot of work, but interesting from the perspective it's not something that is often done.
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Re: forge twintake air intake available end Aug 09
« Reply #111 on: September 04, 2009, 08:09:34 am »

the other problem with comparison will be  all cars will act differently. ideally the best way to compare would be to do logs with just 1 car, but trialling the various different intakes and logging. this way any other variables are removed


I think you would want 2 cars, but test all the filters on both. One OEM car, one modified car and then see which ones make a difference in the each configuration to see if there are any significant differences. Quite a lot of work, but interesting from the perspective it's not something that is often done.


....I was thinking about this last night (sad!) and air intakes are usually easy to take on and off. Also, as my car is Revo'd I can switch it to stock map as well. With some cooperation I may have access to more than one intake system. It's something I'll look into but it would also need someone to spend time in my passenger seat logging out on the road.

Using 2 cars would give additional information but every car is different and surely it would only be relative and a broad indicator.
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Re: forge twintake air intake available end Aug 09
« Reply #112 on: September 04, 2009, 08:21:40 am »
piece of p!ss to take on or off.  it'll be the jubilee clip(or the std one used) holding  the intake onto the turbo, awkward to get to but not to bad, maf is held in by 2 torx screws, and then what ever bracket supportstye end of the intake. the heat shields should be able to stay in imo. would love to be able to see the difference they make

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Re: forge twintake air intake available end Aug 09
« Reply #113 on: September 04, 2009, 08:22:24 am »
JESUS!! 475 from HKS??!! who was that through, HKS singapore are based next door to my warehouse in singapore so may get someone to pop over and have a look, i was interested in importing HKS stuff for VAG cars as its very hard to get bits in the UK, you should see and hear the HKS tbe!! OMG  :drool: :drool: back box was only 370 last time i was there aswell!!

until earlier i never even new HKS did vag kit,

whos got links then!!!

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Re: forge twintake air intake available end Aug 09
« Reply #114 on: September 04, 2009, 08:25:30 am »

the company that produce my intake provide info on their site comparing the std system to their own.

http://212.227.84.30/Codered/CR2.0TFSISportfilterengl.pdf


....Are you happy with yours, Sy? Sorry if you've already posted on this.

performance wise i did notice the difference, especially higherin the rev range, but there is the question of build quality, design and fit. the heat shield i had to cut down to size and then chamfer the edges, and the filter is very tight in the space provided. had i bought this from new i would have gone nuts, but i got it well cheap

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Re: forge twintake air intake available end Aug 09
« Reply #115 on: September 04, 2009, 08:35:35 am »
JESUS!! 475 from HKS??!! who was that through, HKS singapore are based next door to my warehouse in singapore so may get someone to pop over and have a look, i was interested in importing HKS stuff for VAG cars as its very hard to get bits in the UK, you should see and hear the HKS tbe!! OMG  :drool: :drool: back box was only 370 last time i was there aswell!!

until earlier i never even new HKS did vag kit,

whos got links then!!!

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Re: forge twintake air intake available end Aug 09
« Reply #116 on: September 04, 2009, 08:44:06 am »
JKM may also do a group buy for us!!  :smiley:

if not then i doubt id spend that much on an intake alone even though the results are very good.

Hi Guys

Just wanted to clear this up as I have woke up this morning to a barrel of emails.

The Forge twintake is £295.00 plus VAT. We will be offering the product to forum members at 10% off RRP. There will not be a group buy on this as per instructions from Forge.

I am sure this will be a great product. At present the product is listed for the MK5 Golf GTi (KO3) only.

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Re: forge twintake air intake available end Aug 09
« Reply #117 on: September 04, 2009, 09:26:09 am »

I'm holding fire too and might need an APR fuel pump if I upgrade my air intake.


Why?  The pump is not required unless you are planning to go to stage 2+...   :confused:


....So I have learnt from speaking to Revo since I posted that about needing a HPFP.

I had been misinformed by someone who told me I'd need a HPFP if I upgraded my air intake - I'm waiting for a call back for them to explain themselves.

Am grateful for your confirmation :happy2:


^^^^ I now learn there are two strongly opinioned schools of thought on whether fitting an aftermarket CAI necessitates also fitting an upgraded HPFP. I would be inclined to err on the side of caution and invest in a HPFP.

I'm referring to the need for a HPFP if at Stage2 and not necessarily at Stage1 which I don't know about.

I'm posting this comment here because I think it's relevant or may be helpful to considerations of intakes such as by Forge and ITG etc.

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Re: forge twintake air intake available end Aug 09
« Reply #118 on: September 04, 2009, 09:53:08 am »
I was under the impression that with a stage 1 remap on the EA888 engine they had to be careful with the fuel settings as when accelerating under full load up a hill in say 5th gear you could get DTC's if the map was tuned too aggressively (lean fuel on bank XXX - apologies forget the exact error code). This was irrespective of any other mods.

The stage 1 map was still constrained by the limits of the pump in places. However, due to the efforts made to accommodate this in the mapping you did not need a pump for stage 1, even with a filter etc....

I had pump internals put in with stage 1 and TBH it felt very little different as the map was still compensating. Once stage 2+ map went on it was quite a difference to upper band torque. However for stage 1 I wouldn't even bother.
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Re: forge twintake air intake available end Aug 09
« Reply #119 on: September 04, 2009, 09:55:08 am »
Robin didnt you say 265 + VAT?  :sad1:


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