Any ideas please - car juddering and misfiring vcds codes

[Lean]

I've replaced 4x coil packs and they weren't the problem I'm thinking it is the injectors having read other posts/threads does anyone have any ideas please. Cheers

000768 - Random/Multiple Cylinder Misfire Detected
               P0300 - 001 -  - MIL ON
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 11100001
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 70
                    Mileage: 166807 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 04:42:14

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 1830 /min
                    Load: 73.3 %
                    Speed: 49.0 km/h
                    Temperature: 75.0°C
                    Temperature: 11.0°C
                    Absolute Pres.: 1000.0 mbar
                    Voltage: 14.351 V

000770 - Cylinder 2
               P0302 - 001 - Misfire Detected - MIL ON
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 11100001
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 70
                    Mileage: 166807 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 04:42:17

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 1830 /min
                    Load: 73.3 %
                    Speed: 49.0 km/h
                    Temperature: 75.0°C
                    Temperature: 11.0°C
                    Absolute Pres.: 1000.0 mbar
                    Voltage: 14.351 V

008583 - Bank 1; System too Lean at Idle
               P2187 - 004 -  - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100100
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 5
                    Mileage: 166785 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 12:48:27

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 850 /min
                    Load: 16.1 %
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Temperature: 79.0°C
                    Temperature: 38.0°C
                    Absolute Pres.: 980.0 mbar
                    Voltage: 14.097 V

005699 - Please check DTC Memory of Electric Load Controller
               P1643 - 001 -  - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100001
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Mileage: 168243 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 14:17:23

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 1114 /min
                    Load: 65.9 %
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Temperature: 88.0°C
                    Temperature: 36.0°C
                    Absolute Pres.: 990.0 mbar
                    Voltage: 12.192 V

000772 - Cylinder 4
               P0304 - 002 - Misfire Detected - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100010
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Mileage: 169004 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 18:29:10

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 4355 /min
                    Load: 34.1 %
                    Speed: 85.0 km/h
                    Temperature: 81.0°C
                    Temperature: 21.0°C
                    Absolute Pres.: 990.0 mbar
                    Voltage: 13.970 V

000771 - Cylinder 3
               P0303 - 002 - Misfire Detected - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100010
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Mileage: 169515 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 15:05:09

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 767 /min
                    Load: 14.9 %
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Temperature: 82.0°C
                    Temperature: 32.0°C
                    Absolute Pres.: 1000.0 mbar
                    Voltage: 13.843 V

Readiness: 0000 0000

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   Component: GSG DSG         070 1111 
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   Coding: 0000020
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[rich golf gti mk5]

Av u tryed plugs ?

[Lean]

Yes mate had a major service coil pack, plugs replaced but still the problem remains. 

[rich83]

It could be injectors.... do you have the facility to change them yourself?

[Rob.]

Injector loom?

[omeydz]

Yeah Id point to injectors.

Try swapping the suspect one with another fault free cylinder's injector and see if the fault migrates. If it doesnt, then maybe loom?

Injectors are quite dear (more than coilpacks!), I dont know how useful injector cleaner fuel additives are?

[northyracing]

I'm having the same problem with mine judders at low speed and misfire on cylinder 2 I changed plugs and coils and still the same

[Saintsteve]

Yeah Id point to injectors.

Try swapping the suspect one with another fault free cylinder's injector and see if the fault migrates. If it doesnt, then maybe loom?

Injectors are quite dear (more than coilpacks!), I dont know how useful injector cleaner fuel additives are?

Tried that on mine , and doesn't work..

Another failing injector by the sound of it. Very common by all accounts..Injectors each are about £110 +vat and budget a couple hours labour in a reputable garage.

I've tried various cleaning methods but not enough to cure it full stop , problem reoccurred .Its either that or gummed up intake valve not allowing enough air into the cylinder that's effected.

[Lean]

Thanks guys I don't have the facility to change them myself but booked into the garage in a couple of weeks have mentioned the report so will have to pay for another one from garage then they'll ring my extended warranty company.. As long as they believe the report points to injectors.

[Kavichauhan]

Hi there, I'm not sure if much of this will make any sense, but may be of some help...

I have just bought a mk5 GTi from an independent dealer, he said he had the car in as a part exchange and was now selling it (as they do).

He was upfront and honest with me, and told me that when he took the car in it was misfiring and and so he replaced plugs, leads, and coil pack but still didn't work. He then changed the fuel pump, and apparently it was this that was causing the problem. Might be worth looking at?

the car is under warranty and has the ultimate warranty cover with autoprotect so if I get any other problems, I will be on the phone to them!

[Saintsteve]

Hi there, I'm not sure if much of this will make any sense, but may be of some help...

I have just bought a mk5 GTi from an independent dealer, he said he had the car in as a part exchange and was now selling it (as they do).

He was upfront and honest with me, and told me that when he took the car in it was misfiring and and so he replaced plugs, leads, and coil pack but still didn't work. He then changed the fuel pump, and apparently it was this that was causing the problem. Might be worth looking at?

the car is under warranty and has the ultimate warranty cover with autoprotect so if I get any other problems, I will be on the phone to them!

My fuel trims are too high.. So my guess is with one injector not firing, the ecu is overcompensating .

JKM have called to say they agree, injector 4 looks as if its the fault.Car will be ready early next week.

[holepunch]

Hi there, I'm not sure if much of this will make any sense, but may be of some help...

I have just bought a mk5 GTi from an independent dealer, he said he had the car in as a part exchange and was now selling it (as they do).

He was upfront and honest with me, and told me that when he took the car in it was misfiring and and so he replaced plugs, leads, and coil pack but still didn't work. He then changed the fuel pump, and apparently it was this that was causing the problem. Might be worth looking at?

the car is under warranty and has the ultimate warranty cover with autoprotect so if I get any other problems, I will be on the phone to them!

My 06 GTI is also suffering from poor cold starts and I suspect it's the fuel pump that primes when you open the door. Can you confirm which fuel pump your garage changed? It be great if you could provide part numbers and prices.

Thanks