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Offline snapey

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Brake fluids
« on: July 31, 2009, 09:26:52 am »
How do, I'm on opieoils at the minute making the most of the discount.

I know I'm coming up to the point at where the fluids going to be changed and I'm after a bit of info which fluid would be best to purchase? Or is it better to leave it to the local garage to make the decision and put in what they believe to be best for the car?

http://www.opieoils.co.uk/c-450-brake-fluid.aspx

This is basically what I have to choose from.

Also does anyone know the volume stored within the brakelines etc?

Many thanks, Luke
« Last Edit: July 31, 2009, 09:42:19 am by snapey »
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Re: Brake fluids
« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2009, 08:18:25 pm »
If you have ABS on your car you ideally would want a brake fluid with low viscosity.

I used to use Ate super blue racing fluid in mine that wasn't low viscosity. TT has convinced me to use the VW oem brake fluid instead.
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Re: Brake fluids
« Reply #2 on: July 31, 2009, 09:55:37 pm »
how did he convince you of that?
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Re: Brake fluids
« Reply #3 on: July 31, 2009, 11:00:01 pm »
Quote from: JPC on July 31, 2009, 09:55:37 pm
how did he convince you of that?

He put the fear of god into me when he mentioned how much an ABS unit costs to replace. Apparently if VW find the brake fluid isn't oem, they won't warranty it if it goes bad.
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Re: Brake fluids
« Reply #4 on: August 01, 2009, 09:17:38 am »
Motul RBF600 - ran it in all my cars, never had an ABS problem.
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Re: Brake fluids
« Reply #5 on: August 01, 2009, 09:21:14 am »
Quote from: bacillus on July 31, 2009, 08:18:25 pm
If you have ABS on your car you ideally would want a brake fluid with low viscosity.

I used to use Ate super blue racing fluid in mine that wasn't low viscosity. TT has convinced me to use the VW oem brake fluid instead.
Quote from: bacillus on July 31, 2009, 11:00:01 pm
Quote from: JPC on July 31, 2009, 09:55:37 pm
how did he convince you of that?

He put the fear of god into me

He's a softy really in real life  :wink:
but is very good putting his oppinions onto paper so to speak  :smiley:

He is right though.
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Re: Brake fluids
« Reply #6 on: August 01, 2009, 05:15:08 pm »
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T_T is FAR from being always right, Phil (same goes for me and everyone else here).

I've used whatever it is that both AP Racing and VWR recommend (Dot 5.?) and have had no problems for thousands and thousands of miles (nearly 50k miles).
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Re: Brake fluids
« Reply #7 on: August 01, 2009, 05:21:40 pm »
Quote from: RedRobin on August 01, 2009, 05:15:08 pm
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T_T is FAR from being always right, Phil (same goes for me and everyone else here).

I've used whatever it is that both AP Racing and VWR recommend (Dot 5.?) and have had no problems for thousands and thousands of miles (nearly 50k miles).
That isnt what i was saying Robin. Yes it may well work fine, but i guess youve never had to put a claim into VW because you go elsewhere.We are Talking Factory brakes NOT Moddified/Race set-ups.
Vw WILL void your factory warranty if your not using Recommend Brake Fluid in an event of some sort of Brake failure, and not a Racing companys oppinion.

You take your own choices in life, so T_T (in this topic), is correct.

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Re: Brake fluids
« Reply #8 on: August 01, 2009, 05:32:42 pm »
^^^^
Yes, I have had warranty claims via my VW dealer which have been successful.

But sure, a BRAKE failure is not going to be honoured under warranty if you're not using oem brake fluid. However, my understanding was that the learned gentleman who goes under the name of T_T was claiming that most other fluids shouldn't be used. No matter, it's somewhat academic and I can't be arsed to go into all the detail right now.
 
Re the "racing company's opinion" - AP Racing (they were called Lockheed for many years) have been designing and making brakes for both car manufacturers and international motorsport for a great many decades. I value their opinions more than one bod on the internet.

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Re: Brake fluids
« Reply #9 on: August 01, 2009, 06:45:22 pm »
Quote from: RedRobin on August 01, 2009, 05:32:42 pm
^^^^
 
Re the "racing company's opinion" - AP Racing (they were called Lockheed for many years) have been designing and making brakes for both car manufacturers and international motorsport for a great many decades. I value their opinions more than one bod on the internet.

:drinking:

Agree'd robin and would never dismiss that ref AP racing.
Your going off track with the O.p's question. :confused:

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Re: Brake fluids
« Reply #10 on: August 01, 2009, 07:23:05 pm »
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Aplogies to all about off-topic - I do it a lot but never with bad intentions. Put it down to my wondering mind.
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Re: Brake fluids
« Reply #11 on: August 01, 2009, 07:30:25 pm »
Quote from: RedRobin on August 01, 2009, 07:23:05 pm
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Aplogies to all about off-topic - I do it a lot but never with bad intentions. Put it down to my wondering mind.

More Tea vicar? :laugh:

http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=231.0
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Re: Brake fluids
« Reply #12 on: August 01, 2009, 09:51:21 pm »
Quote from: tony_danza on August 01, 2009, 09:17:38 am
Motul RBF600 - ran it in all my cars, never had an ABS problem.

that's what they reccomended when I spoke to them, but after pondering the idea it didn't make sense till I start doing some track days and at that point I might want to upgrade the whole system anyway.

Cheers for the info chaps  :happy2:

luke
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