Brake upgrade.

[veedubbubh]

Any advice on brake upgrades?

Nothing silly people please  -  I use this car as a car not as garage jewellery or as a mobile sound system!

OEM brakes are not good enough at high speed and too grabby at low.

On OEM 17inch rims so upgrades have to fit in these.

Thank-you.

[BMX]

i fitted the Audi S3 front and back and i must say for fast road they are amazing compared to the standard edition 30 ones. they have some serious grab, i would even say they are better than the porsche ones i had on my TT and they were a lot more money. dunno about track use but for the road i would recomend

[RedRobin]

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AP Racing BBKit fit the Monza 17's but they now cost about £1,800 for 4-pot fronts. About 85% of the braking on the Mk5 GTI is on the front and the car isn't heavy enough to warrant more.

Unless you are doing loads of track I would suggest that you need only upgrade your fronts and only need 4-pot. The main problem with the oem brakes is the pedal feel (not confidence inspiring) and it is much easier to induce fade.

If you don't want to spend so much on a proper big brake kit such as AP's then there are other half-way house methods such as stainless steel braided hoses and pads. Some folks have used brakes off other VAG cars but I can't comment on those. I'm sure info on such alternatives will get posted here.

[Hurdy]

My TAROX 10 pot kit fits 17" with the Pro race alloys (good front clearance), but don't know if it would clear OEM 17" Monza's.

[RedRobin]

^^^^

Oh, I should have added you don't need more than 4-pots unless you drive like Hurdy!

[Hurdy]

^^^^

Oh, I should have added you don't need more than 4-pots unless you drive like Hurdy!

I'm sure I don't know what you mean

Should help control those 400+ horsies when they arrive eh!

Sorry.....off topic (again )

TAROX do other set-ups too. The 6 pots would be spot on for the GTI.

[veedubbubh]

Hi guys thanx for the speedy replies - I am not into any real modifications just like to drive!

This may be a silly question but would you see any real difference in brake feel or performance by just changing out the OEM brake pads to something like Ferrodo DS2500?

Thank -you again for your help.

[Boothy]

What's the crack with fitting say, the brakes from an S3? Is it just a case of finding a set at a breakers and fitting them or is it loads more complicated than that? What parts need changing etc.

What could I expect to pay for something like that too?

[gazbutS3]

What's the crack with fitting say, the brakes from an S3? Is it just a case of finding a set at a breakers and fitting them or is it loads more complicated than that? What parts need changing etc.

What could I expect to pay for something like that too?

S3 and R32 have the same brake set-up

[BMX]

What's the crack with fitting say, the brakes from an S3? Is it just a case of finding a set at a breakers and fitting them or is it loads more complicated than that? What parts need changing etc.

What could I expect to pay for something like that too?

S3 and R32 have the same brake set-up

they are similar but not the same, they look very different, but bassically do the same job, ie same pads and discs.

you need the calipers inc carriers and discs and hoses for the front and its a straight swap, i used the dust guards too but ive heard you can use the gti front ones but you need the guards for the rear, but not the hoses for the rear

[MAT ED30]

s3 and r32 and leon cupra are the same brakes just colour change  i buy sets all the time from VW

[BMX]

s3 and r32 and leon cupra are the same brakes just colour change  i buy sets all the time from VW

s3 is a different caliper in shape and colour.

r32 is the same as the cupra but a different colour

[SteveyD]

Hi,

Im currently running my edition 30 at 300bhp on std brakes, iv fitted ferodo ds2500 pads all round and can honestly say that the diference is like night and day.  They gave me more than enough confidence at the nurburgring and stood up to a whole day of Oulton park on Friday.  The only problem at Oulton was I could feel my brake fluid starting to boil on my very last outing.  In a nutshell try fitting DS2500's all round and changing your brake fluid to a race spec one and you should have some very impressive stopping power for under £250 and half a days work.

Go one step further and have a full Cupra R setup (bigger calipers and disks), fit DS2500's to them and you will see even better stopping power and maintain your OEM look.

Im still toying with the idea of doing this myself as I cant justify spending £1,800 on my daily drive and ocassional track/ring toy (erm that could have been worded a little better)

Steve

[Tfsi_Mike]

Hi,

Im currently running my edition 30 at 300bhp on std brakes, iv fitted ferodo ds2500 pads all round and can honestly say that the diference is like night and day.  They gave me more than enough confidence at the nurburgring and stood up to a whole day of Oulton park on Friday.  The only problem at Oulton was I could feel my brake fluid starting to boil on my very last outing.  In a nutshell try fitting DS2500's all round and changing your brake fluid to a race spec one and you should have some very impressive stopping power for under £250 and half a days work.

Go one step further and have a full Cupra R setup (bigger calipers and disks), fit DS2500's to them and you will see even better stopping power and maintain your OEM look.

Im still toying with the idea of doing this myself as I cant justify spending £1,800 on my daily drive and ocassional track/ring toy (erm that could have been worded a little better)

Steve

Although I have shiny kit syndrome and would love a huge shiny 2 piece brake kit Im impressed with my Mk2 Cupra brakes so am going to fit braided lines, ds2500s and new discs and fluid.  What fluid would you recommend??

cheers

[RedRobin]

Hi,

Im currently running my edition 30 at 300bhp on std brakes, iv fitted ferodo ds2500 pads all round and can honestly say that the diference is like night and day.  They gave me more than enough confidence at the nurburgring and stood up to a whole day of Oulton park on Friday.  The only problem at Oulton was I could feel my brake fluid starting to boil on my very last outing.  In a nutshell try fitting DS2500's all round and changing your brake fluid to a race spec one and you should have some very impressive stopping power for under £250 and half a days work.

Go one step further and have a full Cupra R setup (bigger calipers and disks), fit DS2500's to them and you will see even better stopping power and maintain your OEM look.

Im still toying with the idea of doing this myself as I cant justify spending £1,800 on my daily drive and ocassional track/ring toy (erm that could have been worded a little better)

Steve

....I'm wondering how the brake setup you describe will effect your oem discs in the longer term and also how it reduces the potential for brake fading as you are not changing the discs.

As I understand it, pad materials should be proven to match to disc surface materials. And brake fade isn't exclusively created from overheated fluid.

I'm just curious to learn.