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Re: How well does the TSI engine remap?
« Reply #15 on: May 01, 2013, 12:41:35 pm »
It does - well its called the same but sounds like its quite different.

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Re: How well does the TSI engine remap?
« Reply #16 on: May 01, 2013, 12:44:04 pm »
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Re: How well does the TSI engine remap?
« Reply #17 on: May 01, 2013, 01:02:41 pm »
Why didn't VW use the TSI on the higher powered cars?  Golf R / Ed35 etc.

Because they hadnt worked out how to make it work with a K04 turbo. Revo managed it a while back. . .

Not sure if the new Audi S3 is a K04 TSI lump?

TFSI: http://www.audi.co.uk/new-cars/a3/s3/2-0-tfsi-engine.html

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Re: How well does the TSI engine remap?
« Reply #18 on: May 01, 2013, 02:14:03 pm »
You got your Mk6 GTI Ross?

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Re: How well does the TSI engine remap?
« Reply #19 on: May 01, 2013, 04:58:26 pm »
^^^^ excellent, nice one!  :happy2:
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Re: How well does the TSI engine remap?
« Reply #20 on: May 01, 2013, 09:21:47 pm »
Some very optimistic claims from some tuners..

Mine made 245bhp and 430nm stage 1 with no other mods.   The torque makes it a very quick car :)

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Re: How well does the TSI engine remap?
« Reply #21 on: May 01, 2013, 09:30:58 pm »
Some very optimistic claims from some tuners..

Mine made 245bhp and 430nm stage 1 with no other mods.   The torque makes it a very quick car :)



What fuel?

EDIT - Also the Octavia TSI engine is listed as 200 PS and not 210 PS...may still map the same though.
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Re: How well does the TSI engine remap?
« Reply #22 on: May 01, 2013, 09:31:43 pm »
Some very optimistic claims from some tuners..

Mine made 245bhp and 430nm stage 1 with no other mods.   The torque makes it a very quick car :)



was yours a manual?...or DSG....I ve heard the standard clutch on MK6 is the main sticking point in regards to BHP and Torque.
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Re: How well does the TSI engine remap?
« Reply #23 on: May 02, 2013, 04:59:37 am »
My previous car with REVO had 260 bhp on the rollers and 299 lb ft. It was an animal to drive, great fun but had traction issues.
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Re: How well does the TSI engine remap?
« Reply #24 on: May 02, 2013, 08:01:38 am »
Some very optimistic claims from some tuners..

Mine made 245bhp and 430nm stage 1 with no other mods.   The torque makes it a very quick car :)



What fuel?

EDIT - Also the Octavia TSI engine is listed as 200 PS and not 210 PS...may still map the same though.

Mine was 215 stock.

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Re: How well does the TSI engine remap?
« Reply #25 on: May 02, 2013, 10:41:34 am »
Why didn't VW use the TSI on the higher powered cars?  Golf R / Ed35 etc.

Because they hadnt worked out how to make it work with a K04 turbo. Revo managed it a while back. . .

Not sure if the new Audi S3 is a K04 TSI lump?

I'm pretty sure "hadn't worked out" had nothing to do with it.

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Re: How well does the TSI engine remap?
« Reply #26 on: May 02, 2013, 11:20:26 pm »
Dug this out for you lot today, a stock car (was a 200tsi) made 212bhp and overlayed it with a stage 1 graph with 95ron and stage 1 graph with 99ron.

Torque gains with 95ron were 65ftlb and 86ftlb with 99ron.

The reason for the wavy curve on the 99ron is that we struggled for grip which caused wheel spin and loss of power lower down, did get some better runs but couldn't find them on our dyno database. Clearly shows the advantage of decent fuel, especially when the map takes the higher octane into account (saw an extra 3 degrees of advance over entire rpm range over what we get with 95ron fuel)

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=572906549396291&set=a.280037018683247.69566.280034348683514&type=1&theater

At 5500rpm you can see where the ECU pulls out ign advance and kills of the gain in curve.
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Re: How well does the TSI engine remap?
« Reply #27 on: May 03, 2013, 07:57:55 am »
Why didn't VW use the TSI on the higher powered cars?  Golf R / Ed35 etc.

Because they hadnt worked out how to make it work with a K04 turbo. Revo managed it a while back. . .

Not sure if the new Audi S3 is a K04 TSI lump?

I'm pretty sure "hadn't worked out" had nothing to do with it.

The reason VW gave for using the EA113 (TFSI) in the Golf R & Scirocco R was "the older unit was more tuneable" - that says to me they were struggling to get 260+bhp out of the TSI. Obviously with a K04 on it would have p1ssed 260bhp so does make you wonder. . .  :laugh:

Audi call all their engines TFSI, when actually a lot of the time it's the same TSI engine as in the golf. They never adopted the TSI name when VW did
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Re: How well does the TSI engine remap?
« Reply #28 on: May 03, 2013, 05:03:52 pm »
Dug this out for you lot today, a stock car (was a 200tsi) made 212bhp and overlayed it with a stage 1 graph with 95ron and stage 1 graph with 99ron.

Torque gains with 95ron were 65ftlb and 86ftlb with 99ron.

The reason for the wavy curve on the 99ron is that we struggled for grip which caused wheel spin and loss of power lower down, did get some better runs but couldn't find them on our dyno database. Clearly shows the advantage of decent fuel, especially when the map takes the higher octane into account (saw an extra 3 degrees of advance over entire rpm range over what we get with 95ron fuel)

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=572906549396291&set=a.280037018683247.69566.280034348683514&type=1&theater

At 5500rpm you can see where the ECU pulls out ign advance and kills of the gain in curve.

Good graphic of difference between the normal and super unleaded :happy2:
Suprised you havent put a Sedox sticker over that monitor brand name by now Dave :wink:

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Re: How well does the TSI engine remap?
« Reply #29 on: May 05, 2013, 08:23:56 pm »
Will be done on Tuesday  :wink: