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Throttle body????
« on: May 27, 2013, 07:20:38 pm »
After 5 years pretty much trouble free, considering the stick its gets, motoring had an ECL today declaring a traction control issue, went home and did a scan and got the following

Monday,27,May,2013,13:23:33:23089
VCDS Version: Release 11.11.5
Data version: 20121222



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Chassis Type: 1K0
Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 22 25 37 42 44 46 47 52 55 56 77

VIN: WAUZZZ8P38A198451   Mileage: 70980km/44104miles

01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
22-AWD -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
55-Xenon Range -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000
 
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Address 01: Engine        Labels: 06F-907-115-AXX.lbl
   Part No SW: 8P0 907 115 H    HW: 8P0 907 115 B
   Component: 2.0l R4/4V TFSI     0050  
   Revision: 5BH16---    Serial number: AUX7Z0H3FNU09O
   Coding: 01030003180F0060
   Shop #: WSC 13879 664 427782
   VCID: 37763BE34617B5A0D06

5 Faults Found:
000291 - Throttle Position Sensor (G69)
               P0123 - 001 - Signal too High
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100001
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Mileage: 70981 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2013.05.27
                    Time: 13:15:53

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 3992 /min
                    Load: 45.1 %
                    Speed: 62.0 km/h
                    Temperature: 81.0°C
                    Temperature: 25.0°C
                    Absolute Pres.: 990.0 mbar
                    Voltage: 13.716 V

008482 - Accelerator Position Sensor (G79)
               P2122 - 002 - Signal too Low
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100010
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Mileage: 70981 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2013.05.27
                    Time: 13:15:53

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 3992 /min
                    Load: 39.6 %
                    Speed: 62.0 km/h
                    Temperature: 81.0°C
                    Temperature: 25.0°C
                    Absolute Pres.: 990.0 mbar
                    Voltage: 13.716 V

000545 - Angle Sensor 2 for Throttle (G188)
               P0221 - 008 - Implausible Signal
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101000
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Mileage: 70981 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2013.05.27
                    Time: 13:15:53

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 4445 /min
                    Load: 50.6 %
                    Speed: 61.0 km/h
                    Temperature: 81.0°C
                    Temperature: 24.0°C
                    Absolute Pres.: 990.0 mbar
                    Voltage: 14.097 V

001688 - Sensor Reference Voltage C
               P0698 - 002 - Too Low
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100010
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Mileage: 70981 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2013.05.27
                    Time: 13:15:53

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 4367 /min
                    Load: 48.6 %
                    Speed: 60.0 km/h
                    Temperature: 81.0°C
                    Temperature: 24.0°C
                    Absolute Pres.: 990.0 mbar
                    Voltage: 14.097 V

005445 - Throttle Valve Controller
               P1545 - 008 - Malfunction
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101000
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Mileage: 70982 km
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 0 /min
                    Load: 0.0 %
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Temperature: 87.0°C
                    Temperature: 26.0°C
                    Absolute Pres.: 990.0 mbar
                    Voltage: 13.081 V

Readiness: 0000 0100

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK60-A.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 AB    HW: 1K0 907 379 AB
   Component: ESP 4MOTION MK60    0102  
   Revision: 00H13001    
   Coding: 0004744
   Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
   VCID: 72E0CAF76DF51088278

1 Fault Found:
01314 - Engine Control Module
            013 - Check DTC Memory

did a fault code reset and everything was fine for 10 miles or so, but when I made some progress again, the car went into limp mode and wouldn't do more than 20mph, are the faults connected and do you think it looks like another throttle body victim?????  
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Re: Throttle body????
« Reply #1 on: May 27, 2013, 08:13:12 pm »
Yep.... Looks like another one bites the dust!  :sick:
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Re: Throttle body????
« Reply #2 on: May 27, 2013, 08:29:27 pm »
as you might know i chewed my way through about 5 Throttlebodies, it only ended when i changed the wiring (i changed the complete wiring not only to the TB) actually the wiring is cheaper that the TB's by about 40 percent. Brian at BNAutoteknik has just fitted my last faulty revision Q TB on a 500bhp Cupra and so far it works perfectly even though i got the same faults as you  :stupid:
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Re: Throttle body????
« Reply #3 on: May 27, 2013, 08:33:16 pm »
Quote from: danishmkvgti on May 27, 2013, 08:29:27 pm
as you might know i chewed my way through about 5 Throttlebodies, it only ended when i changed the wiring (i changed the complete wiring not only to the TB) actually the wiring is cheaper that the TB's by about 40 percent. Brian at BNAutoteknik has just fitted my last faulty revision Q TB on a 500bhp Cupra and so far it works perfectly even though i got the same faults as you  :stupid:

Shows that your issue was deffo the wiring.

I'm 100% sure all these recent ones have actually been the tb.
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Re: Throttle body????
« Reply #4 on: May 27, 2013, 08:37:52 pm »
Mine was the TB... cant be the wiring as the fault has not returned since. ( same with Chungster and the other 13)  :grin:
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Re: Throttle body????
« Reply #5 on: May 27, 2013, 08:39:56 pm »
I think gaz makes it 16 total now.   :signLOL:

Time to write some letters to vag me thinks.
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Re: Throttle body????
« Reply #6 on: May 27, 2013, 08:44:36 pm »
Get me a refund plz?  :grin:
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Re: Throttle body????
« Reply #7 on: May 27, 2013, 08:48:11 pm »
so is the traction fault code linked to the TB problem?
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Re: Throttle body????
« Reply #8 on: May 27, 2013, 08:50:53 pm »
Quote from: vRSAlex on May 27, 2013, 08:33:16 pm
Quote from: danishmkvgti on May 27, 2013, 08:29:27 pm
as you might know i chewed my way through about 5 Throttlebodies, it only ended when i changed the wiring (i changed the complete wiring not only to the TB) actually the wiring is cheaper that the TB's by about 40 percent. Brian at BNAutoteknik has just fitted my last faulty revision Q TB on a 500bhp Cupra and so far it works perfectly even though i got the same faults as you  :stupid:

Shows that your issue was deffo the wiring.

I'm 100% sure all these recent ones have actually been the tb.

I thought the same, but the fault kept comming on the new ones i fitted after different time periods, not that i say it's deffo the wiring, just saying that there might be other reasons for the faults  :happy2:
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Re: Throttle body????
« Reply #9 on: May 27, 2013, 08:51:05 pm »
Yep... same errors i had... ECL and ESP light on.

Is stores....

Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK60-A.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 AB    HW: 1K0 907 379 AB
   Component: ESP 4MOTION MK60    0102  
   Revision: 00H13001    
   Coding: 0004744
   Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
   VCID: 72E0CAF76DF51088278

1 Fault Found:
01314 - Engine Control Module
            013 - Check DTC Memory

... as the result of the TB sensor error... no actual ABS issue.
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Re: Throttle body????
« Reply #10 on: May 27, 2013, 08:52:21 pm »
Quote from: vRSAlex on May 27, 2013, 08:39:56 pm
I think gaz makes it 16 total now.   :signLOL:

Time to write some letters to vag me thinks.

Something simular to the TT mk2 owners with their failing window regulators?? :signLOL:   :notworthy:
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Re: Throttle body????
« Reply #11 on: May 27, 2013, 09:08:10 pm »
Quote from: richwig83 on May 27, 2013, 08:51:05 pm
Yep... same errors i had... ECL and ESP light on.

Is stores....

Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK60-A.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 AB    HW: 1K0 907 379 AB
   Component: ESP 4MOTION MK60    0102  
   Revision: 00H13001    
   Coding: 0004744
   Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
   VCID: 72E0CAF76DF51088278

1 Fault Found:
01314 - Engine Control Module
            013 - Check DTC Memory

... as the result of the TB sensor error... no actual ABS issue.

ah very interesting :happy2:

so what are the costs involved replacing the TB?
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Re: Throttle body????
« Reply #12 on: May 27, 2013, 09:14:02 pm »
Alex did mine... just under 400 supply and fit.

IIRC Alex said that the part from VW dealers is over 400  :surprised:
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Re: Throttle body????
« Reply #13 on: May 27, 2013, 09:17:03 pm »
Quote from: richwig83 on May 27, 2013, 09:14:02 pm
Alex did mine... just under 400 supply and fit.

IIRC Alex said that the part from VW dealers is over 400  :surprised:

next question is how do I get it to Alex???, anybody know any good car transporters?
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Re: Throttle body????
« Reply #14 on: May 27, 2013, 09:36:31 pm »
Quote from: gazbutS3 on May 27, 2013, 09:17:03 pm
Quote from: richwig83 on May 27, 2013, 09:14:02 pm
Alex did mine... just under 400 supply and fit.

IIRC Alex said that the part from VW dealers is over 400  :surprised:

next question is how do I get it to Alex???, anybody know any good car transporters?

I hope u get it sorted Gaz  :happy2:
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