Make the GTI drink less?

[RedED30]

Is there any chance you could cycle for some of your town trips? Only way I can think of to reduce your petrol costs with the gti around own.

This is what i do, plus it keeps miles down.

I can get 32/33mpg if i use MY revo tweaked map (using sps turing boost and fuel right down) and leave her in D (DSG), no aircon, windows closed, carrying nothing in car bar me.

[jamma]

I average 31 mpg driving from London to Bournemouth each weekend although I do bomb it. I set cruise at 50 on m11 on Thursday as I had plenty of time just to see what I could get , it was 44,3 mpg and I have revo stage 1 map . Pretty impressed with that

[marcnazer]

That is impressive!
Im in Bournemouth too.

Unfortunately I need to use the car for work for ferrying clients around all day so the bike isnt an option.

I might give Revo a ring and see what they think I could get out of it with one of their maps...although they are bound to be a little optimistic

[marcnazer]

oh and also what psi is full load level?

[rdfcpete]

Push it..?

Seriously though that's the best you are going to get around town tbh, even if you bought a diesel it'll still be relatively crap on juice on town driving (My old A3 2.0Tdi 140) would do 35mpg at best round town..

We won't help Steve I'm sure by saying I get more in the Audi nipping across town roughly 3 miles (34-37mpg) than I did the best combined figure ever in the GTI (35mpg), will we?



 

The raw facts are though that the majority of owners haven't seen above 38-40mpg even on long journeys, around town 24mpg is a rough marker and the rest is somewhere inbetween. It's not a car or engine you can squeeze economy out of like you would a more recent diesel or TSI block.

Keep it well maintained and enjoy it for what it does 

[GrayMK5GTI]

To get the most out of the TFSI, use light throttle and try to keep it "off boost". 40+mpg is possible on a long steady motorway run (even with cruise control). Coasting up to junctions uses no fuel in modern cars so take your foot off the gas well in advance of junctions and traffic lights and keep off the brakes as a result.  

Tyre pressures, good fuel and a well serviced engine help, as does a good thrashing to the redline every now and again

[numec]

From my recent 1040 miles trip 
2.5 tanks for the whole trip

[sub39h]

anything you do to make the car more economical will cost more unless you're keeping the car for a VERY long time.

things you can do (in no particular order)

1. warm up the engine prior to driving (tho i'm not sure if the petrol lost by having it idling would cancel out)
2. only use the air con over 40mph (mythbusters did a test which showed that this seemed to be the point where it was more economical than the added drag from a lowered window)
3. economy tyres
4. blue motion aero underbody panels
5. remap
6. use V-Power/Momentum (though from my calculations the added cost is negated by the improved fuel economy)
7. do an IAM (or similar) course. it really improves your forward vision and makes a smoother (and hence more economical) driver
8. try and plan trips so you're doing several things at once in the most efficient fashion

the 2.0T is an impressive engine. when it was new, it was very economical considering the power that was available. just as a measure, i swapped from a 2005 1.6MPI to a 2006 2.0T and saw a 10% drop in fuel economy for a 95% boost in power. on long trips the K03 engines will see up to 40mpg (the K04s are a little more than this iirc because they're off boost for longer on long trips) but around town they really aren't that good and there's just not much you can do about it! 

[GrayMK5GTI]

^^ warming up the engine before driving is the worst thing you can do for fuel consumption  engines are thirstiest when started from cold as the ECU is dumping fuel in to heat up the cat to get it working. Best thing you can do is start up and get driving (gently), the load on the engine warms it up and gets it to is most economical fastest.

An idling engine is just pouring fuel away, and your average mpg will really suffer

[Beddie]

Push it..?

Seriously though that's the best you are going to get around town tbh, even if you bought a diesel it'll still be relatively crap on juice on town driving (My old A3 2.0Tdi 140) would do 35mpg at best round town..

We won't help Steve I'm sure by saying I get more in the Audi nipping across town roughly 3 miles (34-37mpg) than I did the best combined figure ever in the GTI (35mpg), will we?



 

The raw facts are though that the majority of owners haven't seen above 38-40mpg even on long journeys, around town 24mpg is a rough marker and the rest is somewhere inbetween. It's not a car or engine you can squeeze economy out of like you would a more recent diesel or TSI block.

Keep it well maintained and enjoy it for what it does 

Sadly that's the cold hard facts of life with a gti mate!

Even at its worst (35mpg) my A3 was still 5mpg on average better than the ed30 on a run 

[GrayMK5GTI]

Push it..?

Seriously though that's the best you are going to get around town tbh, even if you bought a diesel it'll still be relatively crap on juice on town driving (My old A3 2.0Tdi 140) would do 35mpg at best round town..

We won't help Steve I'm sure by saying I get more in the Audi nipping across town roughly 3 miles (34-37mpg) than I did the best combined figure ever in the GTI (35mpg), will we?



 

The raw facts are though that the majority of owners haven't seen above 38-40mpg even on long journeys, around town 24mpg is a rough marker and the rest is somewhere inbetween. It's not a car or engine you can squeeze economy out of like you would a more recent diesel or TSI block.

Keep it well maintained and enjoy it for what it does  

Sadly that's the cold hard facts of life with a gti mate!

Even at its worst (35mpg) my A3 was still 5mpg on average better than the ed30 on a run  

The TFSI was designed with economy in mind (direct injection etc). It's designed to run very lean on light throttle (FSI mode). It's getting the engine to go into "FSI mode" that takes careful driving. If a lot if us on here can manage it (loads of us can manage 40+mpg) then anyone can. Most people just like to boot it everywhere and say "it's a 2.0 turbo petrol" it's not about economy. . .

Power & economy (although bit at the same time), is what makes the TFSI so good  

[darren4]

sounds silly but have you checked your pvc and dump valve? When my partner got her edition 30 it was doing around 26mpg. Changing the ovc to the newest revision saw it rise to 32mpg which was great :)

[RifGTi]

Push it..?

Seriously though that's the best you are going to get around town tbh, even if you bought a diesel it'll still be relatively crap on juice on town driving (My old A3 2.0Tdi 140) would do 35mpg at best round town..

We won't help Steve I'm sure by saying I get more in the Audi nipping across town roughly 3 miles (34-37mpg) than I did the best combined figure ever in the GTI (35mpg), will we?



 

The raw facts are though that the majority of owners haven't seen above 38-40mpg even on long journeys, around town 24mpg is a rough marker and the rest is somewhere inbetween. It's not a car or engine you can squeeze economy out of like you would a more recent diesel or TSI block.

Keep it well maintained and enjoy it for what it does  

Sadly that's the cold hard facts of life with a gti mate!

Even at its worst (35mpg) my A3 was still 5mpg on average better than the ed30 on a run  

The TFSI was designed with economy in mind (direct injection etc). It's designed to run very lean on light throttle (FSI mode). It's getting the engine to go into "FSI mode" that takes careful driving. If a lot if us on here can manage it (loads of us can manage 40+mpg) then anyone can. Most people just like to boot it everywhere and say "it's a 2.0 turbo petrol" it's not about economy. . .

Power & economy (although bit at the same time), is what makes the TFSI so good  

How do you get it to go into FSI mode? I'm very curious to know

[gtipirelli]

If you are doing lots of town journeys simply switch the engine off when you are sat at the traffic lights. You will see economy jump from 25 to 30 mpg immediately

There is no other way to improve economy around town. You cannot use fuel if the engine is off. I do this automatically now at every set of lights without fail

[GrayMK5GTI]

Push it..?

Seriously though that's the best you are going to get around town tbh, even if you bought a diesel it'll still be relatively crap on juice on town driving (My old A3 2.0Tdi 140) would do 35mpg at best round town..

We won't help Steve I'm sure by saying I get more in the Audi nipping across town roughly 3 miles (34-37mpg) than I did the best combined figure ever in the GTI (35mpg), will we?



 

The raw facts are though that the majority of owners haven't seen above 38-40mpg even on long journeys, around town 24mpg is a rough marker and the rest is somewhere inbetween. It's not a car or engine you can squeeze economy out of like you would a more recent diesel or TSI block.

Keep it well maintained and enjoy it for what it does  

Sadly that's the cold hard facts of life with a gti mate!

Even at its worst (35mpg) my A3 was still 5mpg on average better than the ed30 on a run  

The TFSI was designed with economy in mind (direct injection etc). It's designed to run very lean on light throttle (FSI mode). It's getting the engine to go into "FSI mode" that takes careful driving. If a lot if us on here can manage it (loads of us can manage 40+mpg) then anyone can. Most people just like to boot it everywhere and say "it's a 2.0 turbo petrol" it's not about economy. . .

Power & economy (although bit at the same time), is what makes the TFSI so good  

How do you get it to go into FSI mode? I'm very curious to know

Light throttle, maintaining steady speed. Basically keeping it at 70mph without accelerating & decelerating. Nick @R-Tech pulled up the bit of the map that does this and explained how it works but tbh a lot of it went over my head