Mk7 GTI vs A45 AMG vs M135i Review

[berg]

have to be the AMG for me

there all great cars in there own right and small factors would influence in which order you would take them given the choice.

AMG certainly on my list of next cars to be considered, as is the new Skoda Octavia Vrs estate if i need something bigger

[Jussa]

Where's the RS3?

That would have gobbled them all  understeered into a ditch

fixed it for you

Boll0x the RS3 was quicker than the M135i on a track regardless of any reported understeer - and that's without any ARB/suspension setup tweaks   

[Poverty]

And Chris Harris was driving the rs3 like a cock too.

Oh and the BMW was pretty much on track day tyres whilst the Audi had mediocre continentals.

[taff-turbo]

odd choices for comparisons 
just proves you have take reviews with a pinch of salt 'cos you don't know if there is any ulterior motives.......

[berg]

odd choices for comparisons 
just proves you have take reviews with a pinch of salt 'cos you don't know if there is any ulterior motives.......

agrred would drive all 3. also, these days practical considerations come into it for me - which has the biggest boot? which has the best rear leg room?

[tony_danza]

Is this like the 3 degrees of separation, every thread leads to someone trying to defend the pig on rollerskates that is the RS3? An amazing engine insulted by a sh*t chassis.

By everyone's reckoning, the fact it 'beat' the M135i (just) which is £10k cheaper and actually in a class with its lesser sibling the S3, is a good thing? Everyone forgetting its real peer was the 1M, which monstered the RS3 and given its already cult status and residuals, is fairing rather better.

So, the M135i only actually needs to be as good and as quick as the new S3. Oh. The S3 isn't actually close. Right, how are we going to deal with this then?

[Scottymon]

Modern Beema Petrols have cheated with turbos, BM's should have stuck to NA and kept everything fair.

Having said that the Beemas do have a half litre displacement advantage over the TTRS/RS3 and 1L over the S3... so who's getting the most out of engine size?... ... Mercedes 2.0T 355, lol.

[tony_danza]

2002 turbo? The N54 turbo 6 was good for well over 500hp.

EU regs have killed big power N/A. For everyone.

[Scottymon]

The SAAB 2.3 Turbo was good for 500bhp standard internals; same 2.3T 4 pot engine used in Pikes Peak (800-900bhp iirc). 

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That's all modifications though, I'm talking more about what cars come from the factory with.
Currently this side of the FQ400, the Merc "I think" has beaten everyone with a 355bhp 2.0T 4 pot... on disaplacement terms... from factory.  Or was the Evo a 2.3??

[Poverty]

Is this like the 3 degrees of separation, every thread leads to someone trying to defend the pig on rollerskates that is the RS3? An amazing engine insulted by a sh*t chassis.

By everyone's reckoning, the fact it 'beat' the M135i (just) which is £10k cheaper and actually in a class with its lesser sibling the S3, is a good thing? Everyone forgetting its real peer was the 1M, which monstered the RS3 and given its already cult status and residuals, is fairing rather better.

So, the M135i only actually needs to be as good and as quick as the new S3. Oh. The S3 isn't actually close. Right, how are we going to deal with this then?

It's because the rs3 isn't as bad as some would like to make out.

As for 1m it's a coupe, the rs3 is pretty much an estate.

TTRS vs 1m and the TTRS is quicker.

New s3 vs 135xi and the s3 is quicker in the 1/4 mile dash.

As for the Evo fq400 that doesn't count as it was modified by Owens developments

[MAT ED30]

And who cares as your still not as fast as an r32 golf   

[Hedge]

And who cares as your still not as fast as an r32 golf   

  

[jbc]

Maybe it was shot on the Isle of Man so no speed limit

Maybe   Wouldn't take much working out though if they needed too.

Is it legal to race each other in the Isle of Man?

It says Araf Slow on the road, so must be Wales. Should have guessed that from all the sheep!

Autocar articles have previously said their favourite test road is in Wales, so this was probably it.

[Scottymon]

Oops, if you look at the GTI vs the Merc bit, you can see the GTI is doing around a ton (mid 4th gear), when the Merc has dissappeared.

[Saintsteve]

And who cares as your still not as fast as an r32 golf