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IF you have an uprated clutch, do you engage the clutch pedal when starting your car?

Yes, always
11 (50%)
Never, always in neutral and clutch pedal disengaged
2 (9.1%)
Irrelevant, i have DSG
9 (40.9%)

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Offline danishmkvgti

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What procedure do you use when starting your car?
« on: July 25, 2013, 11:00:32 am »
I have just been informed that the routine involving engaging the clutch pedal when starting the car is a very very bad thing when having an uprated clutch fitted.
The golf GTI has a 180degrees axial bearing and when engaging the clutch upon startup the bearing has no lube and will therefore over time have excessive wear as a result, this again will result in a very expensive reapir in some cases to the extent that you need a new engine  :sad1:

Have this in mind guys, i will change my routine as a result of this  :sick:
« Last Edit: July 25, 2013, 01:32:24 pm by danishmkvgti »
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Re: What procedure do you use when starting your car?
« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2013, 11:14:43 am »
Clutch pedal?? :stupid:
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Re: What procedure do you use when starting your car?
« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2013, 11:19:32 am »
I have always dipped the Clutch  :scared:
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Re: What procedure do you use when starting your car?
« Reply #3 on: July 25, 2013, 11:33:22 am »
Mine won't start unless I press the clutch first, so I guess they've thought about it...
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Re: What procedure do you use when starting your car?
« Reply #4 on: July 25, 2013, 11:52:50 am »
So the consensus here is to disengage the clutch (pedal down) when starting?
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Re: What procedure do you use when starting your car?
« Reply #5 on: July 25, 2013, 01:34:22 pm »
Sorry for the confusion, it's engaging the clutch pedal that is bad as you the puts the pressure from the springs on the clutch plate onto the crank as a sideways stress while there's no oil pressure on the axial bearing, not the clutch itself, my bad  :smiley:
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Re: What procedure do you use when starting your car?
« Reply #6 on: July 25, 2013, 02:14:53 pm »
I put the car in neutral, fully depress the clutch pedal then start the car.
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Re: What procedure do you use when starting your car?
« Reply #7 on: July 25, 2013, 02:21:20 pm »
I have edited the poll due to me not being specific enough  :happy2:
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Re: What procedure do you use when starting your car?
« Reply #8 on: July 25, 2013, 02:39:39 pm »
Axial bearing?  Thrust bearings on the crank?
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Re: What procedure do you use when starting your car?
« Reply #9 on: July 25, 2013, 02:56:51 pm »
In neutral and with clutch pedal pressed I started the engine for 100.000km (50.000 with southbend stg3 daily) and no problem whatsoever!


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Re: What procedure do you use when starting your car?
« Reply #10 on: July 25, 2013, 03:06:02 pm »
Quote from: drsilviuro on July 25, 2013, 02:56:51 pm
In neutral and with clutch pedal pressed I started the engine for 100.000km (50.000 with southbend stg3 daily) and no problem whatsoever!


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Have you had the gearbox off and measured the lateral movement after the 100.00km of use?
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Re: What procedure do you use when starting your car?
« Reply #11 on: July 25, 2013, 03:37:04 pm »
In 2 wks will take the gearbox apart for wavetrac lsd :)


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Re: What procedure do you use when starting your car?
« Reply #12 on: July 25, 2013, 08:25:10 pm »
Quote from: bacillus on July 25, 2013, 02:14:53 pm
I put the car in neutral, fully depress the clutch pedal then start the car.


me too always thought this was correct, but jake are you saying this is only correct for a oem clutch? :confused:
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Re: What procedure do you use when starting your car?
« Reply #13 on: July 27, 2013, 08:19:00 am »
As vRSAlex said, what/where are those axial/thrust bearings? Do you have a picture of them?

Here's a diy, if you don't have pictures
 http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=310279


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Re: What procedure do you use when starting your car?
« Reply #14 on: July 27, 2013, 08:53:20 am »
Quote from: berg on July 25, 2013, 08:25:10 pm
Quote from: bacillus on July 25, 2013, 02:14:53 pm
I put the car in neutral, fully depress the clutch pedal then start the car.


me too always thought this was correct, but jake are you saying this is only correct for a oem clutch? :confused:

Yes Berg, there's a risk when having an uprated clutch and doing this procedure that you'll get sideways slack in the crank
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