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Re: Dodds GT 170
« Reply #15 on: September 05, 2013, 07:16:11 pm »
Ok, my first attempt at logging any data using VCDS (Engine - Block 011).

I've been having a slight issue with my turbo/boost every now and then. I wanted to try and replicate it and also to see if my car is remapped.

So I logged the boost (not shown here yet) and the Torque (Nm) which is split into Driver Requested(Blue line) Actual limit (Green Line) and Smoke limit (Red Line)



Can anybody tell me if they have heard of/experienced this hesitation of the BMN engine/turbo before.

From the graph/numbers I peaked at 428 Nm of Torque so I guess the car is remapped after all (I bought it not knowing it was mapped).

I'll post this in the VCDS region of the forum when I have time tonight. Thanks for any help/insight.
« Last Edit: September 05, 2013, 07:24:25 pm by dodds-gttdi »

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Re: Dodds GT 170
« Reply #16 on: September 05, 2013, 07:20:14 pm »
I don't think I can help with your hesitation issue but just for info, the 170 is the BMN engine which also uses a different turbo to the BKD  :happy2:

« Last Edit: September 05, 2013, 07:25:48 pm by Matto »

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Re: Dodds GT 170
« Reply #17 on: September 05, 2013, 07:24:06 pm »
I don't think I can help with your hesitation issue but just for info, the 170 is the BMN engine which also uses a different turbo to the BKD  :happy2:

Arrgh, typo error. I'm so used to typing about my previous Golf. I do have the BMN engine. Thanks Matt. What's your power/torque figures? I was only seeing 1.6 BAR max of boost being requested. Quite low for a diesel (that's probably mapped).

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Re: Dodds GT 170
« Reply #18 on: September 05, 2013, 07:27:25 pm »
I have mine dyno'd a couple of weeks ago. Ran 200bhp/447Nm. I did find that it is over fuelling a fair bit though which is why I get lots of smoke. Going to get it looked at soon.

Also due to the limitations of VCDS you could be running more than 1.6Bar but it won't show that it is.

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Re: Dodds GT 170
« Reply #19 on: September 05, 2013, 08:35:34 pm »
Seemy sig for what mines running remapped to compare 

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Re: Dodds GT 170
« Reply #20 on: September 05, 2013, 08:58:05 pm »
Nice looking motor. I'll keep an eye on how this progresses.    I've got a GTI rear valance for sale aswell. Based in Edinburgh on the off chance you might be interested.  I was going to colour code it but I've sourced a ed30 rear valance.

Cheers. 

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Re: Dodds GT 170
« Reply #21 on: September 05, 2013, 09:53:03 pm »
Nice looking motor. I'll keep an eye on how this progresses.    I've got a GTI rear valance for sale aswell. Based in Edinburgh on the off chance you might be interested.  I was going to colour code it but I've sourced a ed30 rear valance.

Cheers.

Thanks mate. I've already bought a GTI rear valance from TPS at the Gyle. Holding out for a front Ed30 valance.

I'll keep an eye out for your W28LKR plate. I'll be sporting S400 DDS soon. :-)

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Re: Dodds GT 170
« Reply #22 on: September 05, 2013, 10:00:40 pm »
Nice looking motor. I'll keep an eye on how this progresses.    I've got a GTI rear valance for sale aswell. Based in Edinburgh on the off chance you might be interested.  I was going to colour code it but I've sourced a ed30 rear valance.

Cheers.

Thanks mate. I've already bought a GTI rear valance from TPS at the Gyle. Holding out for a front Ed30 valance.

I'll keep an eye out for your W28LKR plate. I'll be sporting S400 DDS soon. :-)


Cool.  What's tps? Can they get bits cheap or cheaper than vw?  I've priced some stuff direct from VW.  I'll post up the prices shortly

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Re: Dodds GT 170
« Reply #23 on: September 05, 2013, 10:09:48 pm »
Nice looking motor. I'll keep an eye on how this progresses.    I've got a GTI rear valance for sale aswell. Based in Edinburgh on the off chance you might be interested.  I was going to colour code it but I've sourced a ed30 rear valance.

Cheers.

Thanks mate. I've already bought a GTI rear valance from TPS at the Gyle. Holding out for a front Ed30 valance.

I'll keep an eye out for your W28LKR plate. I'll be sporting S400 DDS soon. :-)


Cool.  What's tps? Can they get bits cheap or cheaper than vw?  I've priced some stuff direct from VW.  I'll post up the prices shortly

The Trade Parts Specialist (a subsidiary on the VW Group)

They can source you any VW/Audi/etc part but are probably same price as VW unless a mate in the motor industry can order them for you thru a trade account. Garages do get discount. I've got part no's and prices for gti rear valance, side skirts, adapters, screws, polo aerial and R-Line front grilles (pictured in my signature). Will need to post them soon. I'm gonna paint and fit my skirts and rear valance at the end of Sept.
« Last Edit: September 07, 2013, 03:58:30 pm by dodds-gttdi »

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Re: Dodds GT 170
« Reply #24 on: September 05, 2013, 10:27:17 pm »
My mate is a mechanic at VW at fort kinaird who got me these prices. 

Gti side skirts £143

Gti front splitter £103

Gti rear valance £69


Now for the good bit.

Ed30 sideskirts £658

Ed30 front splitter £293

Ed30 rear valance £491      :scared:



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Re: Dodds GT 170
« Reply #25 on: September 05, 2013, 11:05:44 pm »

From the graph/numbers above I peaked at 428 Nm of Torque so I guess the car is remapped after all (I bought it not knowing it was mapped).

I'll post this in the VCDS region of the forum when I have time tonight. Thanks for any help/insight.



Easy to see if a car is remapped. Go to Engine 01 > Advanced Measurements > Et Voila (above)

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Re: Dodds GT 170
« Reply #26 on: September 06, 2013, 07:19:24 pm »
Very good.

I like the before and after photos.  Looks good, nice subtle improvements; did you have to trim the (bottom of) polo aerial so it can screw into the base, or was it a straight swap?

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Re: Dodds GT 170
« Reply #27 on: September 06, 2013, 10:01:13 pm »
Regarding the aerial fault, check the cables behind the stereo, sometimes people shove the unit in and kink the cable. A double adaptor might be required for your newer radio aerial.

You can check the antenna using vcds, if a suspect cable you can normally wiggle it and see output change on/off.

There are 2 antenna, one is heated screen element other is on the roof, it switches and uses the one with best signal on its own. The roof aerial is powered and so contains a small circuit board. this is prone to water ingress and corrosion just like the mk4.

Just a few ideas, im sure you'll sort it  :happy2:

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Dodds GT 170
« Reply #28 on: September 06, 2013, 10:09:12 pm »
Very good.

I like the before and after photos.  Looks good, nice subtle improvements; did you have to trim the (bottom of) polo aerial so it can screw into the base, or was it a straight swap?

I try and keep a before and after pic of most mods. Good for comparison. The Polo aerial screws straight in, no modification needed. :happy2:

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Re: Dodds GT 170
« Reply #29 on: September 07, 2013, 12:13:01 am »
very nice love the colour :happy2:cant wait to see what mods you have planned